• @odium@programming.dev
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    18510 months ago

    On the flipside, something most developed countries consider normal but would blow Japanese minds is the ability to do all “paperwork” on your phone or laptop without any paper ever being printed anywhere. Japan is somehow still a country of fax.

    • Squiddles
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      14210 months ago

      I heard Japan described as being “stuck in the year 2000 since the 1980’s”. I think South Korea fits the original question better than Japan nowadays.

      • Chozo
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        4110 months ago

        Yeah, Japan had a massive tech boom in the 80s and 90s, but then just kinda stopped growing that field. It’s still there and still a strong industry in Japan, but the cultural tech hype isn’t there anymore, it seems.

        • @doctorcrimson@lemmy.world
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          Part of the reason for the original enthusiasm is that they were enamored by the country’s recovery post-WWII when they managed to barely obtain permissions from transistor patent holders to manufacture in Japan which led to creation of many of the first consumer transistor radio brands among other electronics manufacturing.

          They were the cheap electronics labour market before China, as China wouldn’t see notable economic improvement until after the 80s.

      • @Potatisen@lemmy.world
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        1510 months ago

        I think Shanghai/China fits it even better. The convenience and technological advances are moving crazy fast.

        • @doctorcrimson@lemmy.world
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          210 months ago

          Meh. They’re head to head for most fields, only thing I can think of that they’ve made noteworthy advances in would be superheated coal burning efficiency to squeeze out more power and at the same time capture more emissions than any comparative western facility. China as a whole has some of the lowest per capita emissions of any nation, though their numbers might not be as accurate for several reasons.

          Even their rocketry is kind of pathetic, I think India might even have the edge over them on that front.

      • @imkali@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        1310 months ago

        I’m there right now from Australia, which is often considered one of the most cashless societies and yeah, it’s really a shock.

        To be honest I kind of like it, and the way they manage it.

        • @Ucalegon@lemmy.world
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          810 months ago

          Here in the Netherlands you can pay practically everywhere electronically (even the door to door collectors for charities carry a qrcode in addition to their collection box) , but if you go next door to Germany you’d better bring cash if you want to buy anything.

      • @fidodo@lemmy.world
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        810 months ago

        And when it isn’t cash only it’s a completely random grab bag between credit cards, transit cards, QR codes, app payment and e money. Just hope you have the supported option of like 20 options.

      • @thrawn@lemmy.world
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        410 months ago

        They’ve made a stunning amount of progress in accepting credit cards in the past couple years though. I’m there pretty regularly and the shift has been wild. By spring 2023 I didn’t really need cash anymore. By fall, I used cash maybe twice.

        There was one thing I was sure I’d need cash for— nope, the hotel paid them and added it to my tab. Back in the day, that mostly happened only if you skipped out on a reservation and the restaurant wanted to collect the cancellation fee. Which has never happened to me so I guess I’m not sure it worked exactly like that.

        I know a lot of people here hate credit cards and only use cash, but it’s honestly a pretty large hassle to get cash in every country you visit. Using the same card everywhere is way more convenient and cheaper (exchange fee + no % back like with a credit card)

      • @ferralcat@monyet.cc
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        110 months ago

        I’ve heard it’s just more of a burocracy thing. A friend there once told me he always puts the date wrong on the top of documents because there is a person who’s job is to double check your work. They’re judged on how often they find mistakes, so it’s easier to put something blatantly wrong at the top that easily fixed so they can quickly find it and he can move on.

    • tiredofsametab
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      310 months ago

      We are getting more and more stuff, but they often have a really shit UX. We can do some stuff on PC since the “My Number” card system, but that also requires installing all kinds of software, only works in certain browsers, etc.

    • @RainfallSonata@lemmy.world
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      310 months ago

      You can fax at your local public library. It was only about six months ago that my state’s social services dept. stopped requiring faxes.