Last night she was coughing in a manner my asleep brain read as “gross”, so unconsciously noped the fuck out of there and slept on the sofa. I can’t believe my non-awake brain got it.
She tested positive a few hours ago, so now I just have 7 days to worry. I probably have it, I feel a bit off already.
I know that it’s more than most people, but she was wearing low quality masks, going to a non-safe dentist at peak times, and avoiding the booster. I’ve been nicely pushing her for years, and she brings this shit home. She’s also sorry, and I say it’s fine because I want her to feel better and recover, but secretly I’m fucking raging.
Sorry to rant. Better on Hexbear than out loud.
yeah but measuring by what other dipshits are doing is the wrong way to go about it. there’s an acceptable level of precaution you can take and she didn’t bother. it doesn’t matter if everyone around her is a plague rat, there’s no excuse to join them
Yeah, which is always defined in a post-hoc manner in the negative, because eventually almost everyone is going to catch this thing, regardless of their precautions.
I caught it when one of the KN95’s I was wearing turned out to be a counterfeit. If someone came at me for not checking serial numbers and stitching like it’s some sort of Beanie Baby, I’d write them off. Was my level of precaution “acceptable”? I don’t know, that doesn’t mean anything. Was it effective? No.
i’m sorry that happened to you. you’re talking about a totally different situation than OP is though.
is a series of intentional choices. you were the victim of an outside actor. the result is ultimately the same but OP’s partner could change their behavior and lower the risk for both of them. you could not have reasonably done much of anything in your situation.
I was the victim of my own lack of due diligence. The CDC had information on their website about checking for counterfeits and I didn’t pay it sufficient mind until it was time to pay the piper.
Was it reasonable for me to have to do that? I don’t know, ‘reasonable’ is defined socially, and at the moment, the vast majority of the population considers mask wearing unreasonable, so I don’t know what good ‘reasonable’ is supposed to do us here.
Everyone can always do more, but the reality of the situation is largely out of our hands, anyone still going out is only going to be able to shift the probabilities in their favor, but not control the outcomes, so anytime a breakthrough infection occurs despite n precautions, I don’t find much value in anger at the fact that n+1 precautions weren’t taken.
I’d understand the OP’s anger more if there were some sort of betrayal, where she promised him to take more precautions and then reneged on them, but in reality, she took the precautions she was comfortable with, and despite wishing she’d take more, he took the precautions he was comfortable with, which involved close contact with someone taking fewer precautions. The law of large numbers did the rest.
Since when did we distinguish between reasonable and unreasonable by what the majority of liberals in the west think?
You don’t see value in reducing viral load and thereby reducing the expected severity of the infection, even in a post-hoc sense where you’re already infected?
people in relationships are atomic and it’s never acceptable to be upset with one’s partner for prioritizing fleeting sensory pleasure over the health of everybody in the relationship
That’s part of my point. Reasonable is not defined in any meaningful, universalizable sense here. The subjectivity of what is reasonable in this case is part of the problem. Who gets to decide what definition of reasonable everyone has to use is? She did what she thought was reasonable and so did he. Now they’re both infected. Doesn’t seem like ‘reasonable’ is worth discussing (cue Anton Chirguh)
Of course I do, that’s why I’m spraying ridiculous chemicals in my nostril daily and teaching in an kn95 and bought a $250 air purifier for my office. But I don’t see the value in beating myself (or anyone else up) if (and when) those measures prove insufficient. There’s always one more step I could take.
You and I must have very different dentists.
Nobody’s beating anybody up because those particular measures proved inefficient. People are rightfully dumping on someone who did not bother to take the extremely minor precautions that would have better protected their partner, despite their partner’s protests
How else do you describe insistence on wearing a cloth mask over an n-95 or the insistence on not updating their vaccine? Why could a non-emergency dental appointment not wait 3 months until the next expected covid lull?
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I’m sorry that you’ve experienced such debilitating outcomes . Everything about this is an astounding injustice that should have been avoided years upstream of your experience.
That said, I think you should keep two things in mind. The main result of the paper you linked is that POTS, myocarditis, and the other outcomes studied do occur in people vaccinated at a greater frequency than before those people were vaccinated, but that these rates are still significantly lower than the frequency of occurrence of the same outcomes post sars-cov-2 infection, relative to before sars-cov-2 infection. Specifically, from the summaries of the briefing by the editors and the original Authors’ corrections made to the original work,
This means that unless a subject is able to remain safely isolated from contact such that their actual risk of infection is 0 (and let’s be honest, this is not what OP’s SO was doing, nor is it practical for the vast majority of people), their risk of developing POTS and myocarditis is lowered by vaccination.
Now, returning to the original article, “Apparent risks of postural…”, I don’t see the numbers you’re claiming regarding prevalence. Even if I look for those values in the odds ratios (or the not-so-mathematically-legal comparisons of crude odds ratios across two mutually exclusive populations with no adjustment for confounders, which the authors admit is precluded by their methodology), I see completely different numbers. Did you mean to cite a different work or is my reading comprehension that fucked?
Finally, admitting that we can’t know your true sars-cov-2 infection history, unless you have negative PCR results the day of and in the days following your September 2023 booster, is it not possible you had an actual covid infection?
Regardless, I hope you’re able to recover your cardiovascular function and I hope you stay safe out there.
Kind of but not really, because the more people don’t do the right thing here the harder it is to do the right thing. After a certain point you’re basically expecting people to commit full martyrdom just to be moral people
My point isn’t that that isn’t a fair opinion of morality, but that then expecting people to be moral is unrealistic. So you kind of end up having to dilute your own application of morality to even apply that, lest you end up just treating everyone around you as monsters or lesser (not to mention the self-hate that will occur when you inevitably fuck up!).
So if you do hold that position, it also has to be tempered with an approach that no one is morally perfect, or you’ll end up going insane
Edit: The only problem with treating everyone around you as lesser is it makes you bitter as shit and… doesn’t do anything. People don’t listen to the person constantly calling them shit people no matter how correct they are.
That’s the point of holding an ideology. An ideology is your line in the sand to measure your progress and setbacks, a way to ensure stability in your actions and thought processes. Every so called “leftist” on this site who isn’t masking just followed in the path of liberals they were mocking months earlier. You think that’s going to lead anywhere good?
This was a vent post by a comrade dealing with some shit in one of the few safe places those of us who are still coviding can come to escape a world (often including our family and friends) that has largely informed us that our lives are trivial and expendable. If somebody needs to come here and be angry or call people ‘plague rats’ (which, even if it’s impolite and dehumanizing, is what they are being) so they can deal with their life, this should be the place they can come do that without getting tone policed.
Im not tone policing anyone, you can use whatever terms you want for people. This is me being a weirdo about abstract ideology and day to day living, I don’t care what kind of venting people do online
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