• SkippingRelax@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Wow, the other guy already addressed the history books part but I wanted to stop for a second and focus on

    It’s an age-old tactic for Arabs to […]

    Wonder how people would take it if we were addressing the other party in this conflict, and someone like you would throw in a gross generalisation, pointing out that it goes back a long time.

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      LoL, like gross generalizing hasn’t warped the word Zionist into the updated version of dirty Jew.

      The history remains the same, the surrounding Arab Nations have been attacking Israel since it’s inception. they refuse to acknowledge Israel and they continue to feed bodies into martyrdom in the name of their goal of a pan arabian caliphate. The wild thing is they don’t even deny it, but the West refuses to accept their own words.

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        I can give multiple examples of group members who disagree with elements of their group so substantively, they split off and form new groups. Schisms are normal reactions to outside/inside actors co-opting or directing a group, Mensheviks and Bolsheviks, Protestants and Catholics, America and the Commonwealth…

        If you’re upset that something is being done by a group you’re a part of, who openly declares to be working towards a goal that is unpopular outside the group, leave the group. There are plenty of Jews and Jewish groups that reject revisionist Zionism and/or Kahanism, the notion of Jewishness is not owned by a political party nor ideology. Claiming that criticism of the movement is a dog whistle, becomes unconvincing and is disingenuous to the reader

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        So its okay for you to do it? Must be confusing to be you mate. I won’t even touch the second part, someone posted a few links before, since you keep mentioning ‘history’ it might be time to start reading about it instead if just making things up

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          Most of those links supported the position that Arabs are the aggressors FFS. Did you even read them?

          I’m very familiar with the history of this region, and I’m very positive that it was not the Israelis who started the wars they’ve suffered from.

          It’s actually perfectly fine for Israel to defend itself, that much was made clear in the ICJ ruling. What the ruling didn’t establish though is that there’s a genocide happening.

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              The people who were living in the region fought off invaders, named a King and started spreading the tribes out from there according to the archeological record.