Today the KDE Community is announcing a new najor release of Plasma 6.0, and Gear 24.02. KDE Plasma is a modern, feature-rich desktop environment for Linux-based operating systems. Known for its sleek design, customizable interface, and extensive set of applications, it is also open source, devoid of ads, and makes protecting your privacy and personal data a priority.

With Plasma 6, the technology stack has undergone two major upgrades: a transition to the latest version of the application framework, Qt 6, and a migration to the modern Linux graphics platform, Wayland. They will continue providing support for the legacy X11 session for users who prefer to stick with it for now. The new version brings the new windows and desktop overview, improved colour management, a cleaner theme, more effects, better overall performance, and much more.

  • 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    I love KDE. Been using it for 10 years

    One question i’ve always had though… Does anyone actually use the default KDE software like konqueror, kmail, kontacts, etc? Why not just focus on the desktop environment?

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      That software played a much bigger role back in the day (i.e Konqueror’s. KHTML was forked by both Apple and later Google for Safari and Chrome), so it’s kind of a proud legacy. Konqueror is deprecated though. The other apps are useful for KDE mobile.

      But the real reason people work on them is “cause they wanna”

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      9 months ago

      KDE’s weakness to GNOME is definitely the range and quality of its homegrown apps, but the ‘core’ apps like Kate, Kalculator, Konsole are really solid.

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      A bunch of them: Kate, Konsole, Dolphin, KCalc, Kdenlive, Okular, Gwenview, Ark, Spectacle, KDEconnect, Elisa and probably a couple more I missed.

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      Yeah I use a lot of KDE software, main reason because it fits so nicely with the desktop and it also integrates functions with Plasma so usage is even smoother. One of the main applications I do not use from KDE are browser, I use LibreWolf (the desktop integration package+plugin does quite a nice job for integration here), and LibreOffice,

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        I’d argue GNOME has a better native app ecosystem. they have the resources to maintain a massive selection of “official” apps

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          I don’t know, I used gnome for a while and I just felt like I was using toy apps. But I think that comes down to personal preference. KDE definitly has the bigger apps like Kdenlive and Krita.

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      The default software was one of the main reasons KDE was created. The original creator didn’t like that every app on their system seemed to use a different UI toolkit, and wanted a consistent appearance across everything.

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    Nice. I’ve kept coming back to try Plasma for years and years, but there’s always been some jank, bug, complete lack of polish, or random annoyance that forced me off it again.

    Much of these have been improved with Plasma 6, and I’m glad that they took extra time to release rather than quickly shoving it out, a la Plasma 4 and early Plasma 5. To be blunt, those two were an absolute mess. It was only around 5.15 where it started getting stable enough to really use.

    The only big showstopper in Plasma 5.27 for me was the lack of proper session restore - if Kwin crashes, it takes all my work down with it. Plasma 6 will be fixing that.

    I think I’m going to try this on my laptop once Fedora 40 releases

    Compliments to the devs, it’s a thankless job sometimes

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      Well yeah, about session restore. In X11 mode it is better. But on Wayland, well it is missing completely, since Wayland does not support it just yet. KDE developers are pushing hard to make it happen in Wayland and in the meantime they are also working on workarounds.

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      and I’m glad that they took extra time to release rather than quickly shoving it out, a la Plasma 4 and early Plasma 5.

      As far as I can remember, this was also the fault of some distributions that wanted to release Plasma 5 quickly, even though the developers of Plasma pointed out existing bugs.

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      i never had much issue with Nvidia on wayland, but KDE Plasma sadly has quite poor support for graphics switching out of the box. Then again, only Sys76 and Pop! ever got that down to what I’d call “seamless”

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        Prime works well anywhere tho. I guess you are asking for a GUI to switch between them and/or disable it on a per software basis? For me games via Steam “just work”, they use the Nvidia GPU by default and Lutris has a little switch to enable it. It’s only getting more complicated if you want your Nvidia GPU to fully turn off when not in use.

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          Yeah, I was amazed when I started gaming on Linux. The desktop and VA-API uses Intel iGPU and Steam games use the Nvidia GPU through offload, I never have to do anything. It works even better than it did on Windows.

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          It does, but the problem with laptops is that their external outputs (HDMI etc.) are often only connected to the dGPU.

          If you want to hook your laptop up to a TV or monitor you need to log out of your system, log back in with drivers and compositor reconfigured to use your dGPU. It’s part of why I moved from my 1650Ti gaming laptop to a notebook only using AMD’s integrated graphics - it just felt beyond janky

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    9 months ago

    I like Plasma but the bug where the OS goes to sleep when using a joypad is pretty frustrating. It’s an old bug now too.

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      I experienced that too and ended up just disabling the timed sleep mode. Not sure if it’s actually related to KDE software or just a Linux bug in general though.

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        Last time I mentioned it someone posted the bug report for it (KDE). It was like 5 years old or something

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      Oh not just me? amazing lmao

      For what it’s worth, there’re some upcoming wayland protocols that will allow apps to announce their content type (ie. documents, games, media etc.) to the compositor which might finally mean Wayland will consider not going to sleep when a game is running

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      Yeah this is really annoying for me as well. I found that if you go into the system tray and click on ‘power management’ and then tick the box for ‘manually block sleep and screen locking’ it’ll solve the issue. Unfortunately it means that your display won’t go dark when the system is idle, so I have to remember to untick that box after I’m done gaming in order to keep that behaviour.

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          I made an extremely half-hearted attempt at it at some point, but couldn’t immediately find any cli commands to toggle that option so I gave up pretty quickly.

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    I look forward to the havoc this will cause with all my themes and widgets in the coming weeks lol.

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      I think the Kubuntu folks are mostly working on polishing Plasma 5.27 for Kubuntu 24.04 right now, but I would bet that shortly after its release we’ll see 6.0 in the backports PPA.

      I doubt that’ll be available for 23.10 though, as it’ll mess up the upgrade to 24.04.

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    Wow. They just lifted the horrific Desktop management paradigm from MacOS.

    But I don’t know, I guess people like it, and fortunately I’m not forced to use KDE.

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          I’m not sure what he means either, but if he meant gnome he’d have said Gnome, and probably posted it on a submission about Gnome.

          And Gnome really doesn’t feel like MacOS at all. Beyond a black bar at the top with a few bits in it, they’re very, very different.

          E: I think they’re referring to the new overview menu that’s essentially a clone of Gnome’s Activities view. But that’s not really how it is on MacOS either.

          And I’m not sure why you immediately downvoted lol. Have I done something to upset you?

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          No, I’m referring to KDE. Check the link in the post and watch the videos. The desktop switching is now working almost exactly like in MacOS.

          Of course KDE wins by allowing to configure it.

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      Can always change whatever you don’t like, that’s the strong part of KDE, unlike Gnome where you have to rely on 3rd party extensions and hope they don’t break next update.

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      They just lifted the horrific Desktop management paradigm from MacOS.

      I’m amazed that people like this style of desktop switching. Linear? Why? It’s easier to picture my place “in a small grid” than in a “long line of desktops”. Since “forever” I’ve used a 3x3 grid of desktops that I navigate with ++. Turn off all of the stupid animations, effects, etc. and make it an instant desktop change. I assume KDE being KDE this will still be configurable as it is in Plasma 5 though.

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        I think this just comes down to differences between people, 3x3 grid is far more confusing for me than finding my place in line. Instant desktop change is also super jarring, but if it works for you then keep on doing your thing.

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        The total opposite doesn’t really seem to have get the same attention either.

        The one thing I really want to bring from gnome is the dynamic workspaces. I don’t have to think about where and how to group applications I just take up space as I need to.