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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to Україна | Ukraine 🇺🇦@lemmy.ml · 3 years ago

Anatomy of a Coup: How CIA Front Laid Foundations for Ukraine War

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Anatomy of a Coup: How CIA Front Laid Foundations for Ukraine War

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to Україна | Ukraine 🇺🇦@lemmy.ml · 3 years ago
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Obvious examples of Central Intelligence Agency covert action abroad are difficult to identify today, save for occasional acknowledged calamities, such as the long-running $1 billion effort to overthrow the government of Syria, via funding, training and arming barbarous jihadist groups.
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    The author’s whining tone is difficult to get through, but he fails to identify why Ukraine being a free democracy was such a threat to Russia that invasion and war crimes are justified. Ukraine is not Russia and they don’t want to be.

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      Whatcha talking about Willis, Ukraine a free democracy? https://www.theguardian.com/news/2015/feb/04/welcome-to-the-most-corrupt-nation-in-europe-ukraine

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        That’s why one of the biggest requirements they have to pass to join the EU is to reign in that massive corruption. It’s a known problem being actively rooted out and punished, and if joining the EU is popular enough I think we’ll see a cultural shift away from the Russian corrupt kleptocracy mindset into western European democracy and liberalism

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          Youkeepp on believing that. It’s a country ruled by the oligarchs and it’s working exactly the way oligarchs want it to.

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            You mean like Russia? And I’m unsure how belief is required in Ukrainians deciding their own destiny.

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              Yeah, Russia isn’t any better than Ukraine. Meanwhile, as discussed here, you need to learn a bit about the demographics in Ukraine before talking about Ukrainian destiny.

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                What about the 2019 election? The most recent one before the war I think, right?

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                  I address that in the thread if you bother reading it. Zelensky ran on the platform of normalizing relations with Russia and implementing Minsk.

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                    Aaaaaaaaand then Russia invaded and suddenly normalizing with the EU (not Russia, not invading and murdering them currently) got a lot more popular. Strange, isn’t it?

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