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Why do I feel like so many people here support the USSR and the CCP? - Lemmy
web.archive.orgMaybe it’s because of federation with lemmygrad, but I always feel like there’s quite a heavy anti-western or pro-communism bias. There are people arguing that NATO is expanding eastward (which, I don’t think it is, instead you just have more eastern countries are joining it) and “invading” (which, I mean it’s a defensive alliance that countries voluntarily join: “don’t attack us or we will all have to attack you” should only be worrying if you actually plan an invasion.)
There’s also people talking about how the collapse of the soviet union was a disaster, and using the Mercator projection to argue how Russia is bigger than Ukraine.
This isn’t really a problem on its own, but I find it surprising how many upvotes this stuff gets. Soviet Gulag killed just as many people as Nazi concentration camps, and the Soviet Union would only fall after everyone was so sick of it (eastern block declaring independence, for example) that it died. Surely, surely nobody looks at an authoritarian dictator and thinks “yeah i trust that person (with insane influence and little opposition) to not abuse their power and have my (a peasant) best interests (which are contradictory to theirs) at heart”.
Don’t even get me started on China, which still insists that Taiwan (which has been its own country since the CCP took power of the mainland) shouldn’t have any independence (imperialism…); and the country is clearly so sensitive about it they threw a hissy-fit and started doing military exercises outside Taiwan after they committed the horrible crime of… having a diplomat visit. Oh also China trying to exclude Wikimedia for acknowledging that Taiwan exists, claiming “disinformation”. Oh did I mention harassing and banning VTubers who say it is a country, even outside of a political setting?
Say what you will about China and an anti-china bias in the west, but any country that implements or supports a splinternet, or needlessy engages in border disputes with neighbouring countries meanwhile oppressing people within Chinese borders who have been living there for ages for not being chinese enough.
Again, don’t get me wrong I don’t think the west is immune from any of this (and in fact I think there is a lack of criticism of the west), but anyone who claims the west is evil while simultaneously glorifying countries that implement concentration camps comes off as fascistic and ignorant.
Sorry if this comes off as more of a rant than a question, but surely I can’t be the only one who feels this way?
I don’t pretend to know much about how China functions, but I know enough to know its certainly more capitalistic than Mao would have liked. But this is why I’m not a fan of communism—the most developed countries that embraced it all became horrible dictatorships that betray the most central tenets of communism. In other words, it doesn’t seem to work all that well, at least not on a grand scale. For it to work as intended, I think it requires a fairly small community—like a commune. I’m not a fan of capitalism either though; my preference is something in the middle, more like Democratic socialism.
But the point is, some Far Lefties do seem to like China for whatever reason. Again, I think they mainly just like that they’re opposing capitalism and view the CCP through some very rose-colored classes.