Look, I’m happy about the EU regulating these things and think it’s great for the overall ecosystem. But can we please stop with the “Apple users are braindead” circlejerk? It’s so fucking cringe, and it unironically reminds me of the unebearable zeal that Apple cultists used to (and probably still do but I see it less) impose on anyone who made the mistake of getting to close to them.
I’ve had many Android phones over the years, and one iPhone 8. While I am considering moving to a de-Googled Android for privacy reasons, I have to say, my iPhone has held up better than any of my Android phones (Galaxy S3, S4, LG G3) did, without needing to replace the battery. Just because you can’t understand why someone might want one doesn’t mean everyone who gets an iPhone is an idiot.
I would much rather have left this kind of tech chest-beating over at reddit.
Secondly you prove exactly the point. They try to make you dependent on their proprietary technology, forcing you to use their app store, apps, chargers, repair shops, desktop OS, TVs etc. (you can circumvent each of these point, but it requires always some amount of technical time investment).
Excuse you, I use CalyxOS on my phone. I also use Linux on my PC. Am I allowed back on the “apple bad” train?
Tbh, I don’t think Apple products are bad. I just hate the company, just like many MANY others.
Apple products are fine, generally well built and easy to use, especially if you value multiple interconnected devices.
The major con is all the horrible tactics Apple uses to protect it’s walled garden. Without that, they can’t extort users into staying because we know their devices and price are not the reason.
At least they with android can change and look at everything since its open source. Root and toot. Ios will fall due to its lock ins just like Microsoft once did. Same same but different.
I’ve been flashing custom firmware on my phone since before Android was a thing, I’ll have you know my OS is built by dodgy Russian hackers installed on a dodgy Chinese phone, thank you very much.
Hi, I’m sorry that this makes you feel uncomfortable. It wasn’t my aim to make people feel that way. Even if I was making fun of Apple devices and users it doesn’t reflect the whole spectrum of my feelings. I do think that Apple has made some technological milestones and that their products are a strong alternative comparing them to the other ones (Windows Phone *cough cough)
Even if Apple isn’t my favourite brand I still believe that competition drives progress which is why I’m actually glad Apple is such a big competition and vice versa. And it is because of users like you.
I don’t really want to denounce Apple users for their phone choice. As I see it we’ve all chosen our phone by our past influences and experiences, and those naturally differ so there’s no objective right and wrong here. Ultimately, you choose what suits you best!
And to be really fair, the only phones I’ve seen so far that would tick off all the boxes are old Android phones and the Fairphones.
Ah nah, it’s OK I wasn’t talking to you specifically. The meme is fine by itself – it just attracts certain types that do like to say the kind of things I was referring to. Perhaps I should have replied to one of the other comments I saw that said this instead.
I don’t really mind the non-replacable batteries tbh. Water resistance is much harder when you need to design your phone with a removable battery.
I do want the SD card slots back though. I don’t care about having two Sim cards, I want my enormous local storage that I can transfer in 8-10 seconds back
Yeah but I want to see change, I don’t want such a stupid greedy company win a single customer. Customers are mostly not knowing anything what they are doing and just do such a stupid decision because Apple markets Iphones with 99% satisfaction of user reports which is 100% fake and just marketing… like privacy, its just marketing. There is no privacy.
If privacy is your concern the better option could be e.g. some google free android variant. There are several other OSes that are specialised in this regard and I think it’s not a pro argument for apple.
Look, I’m happy about the EU regulating these things and think it’s great for the overall ecosystem. But can we please stop with the “Apple users are braindead” circlejerk? It’s so fucking cringe, and it unironically reminds me of the unebearable zeal that Apple cultists used to (and probably still do but I see it less) impose on anyone who made the mistake of getting to close to them.
I’ve had many Android phones over the years, and one iPhone 8. While I am considering moving to a de-Googled Android for privacy reasons, I have to say, my iPhone has held up better than any of my Android phones (Galaxy S3, S4, LG G3) did, without needing to replace the battery. Just because you can’t understand why someone might want one doesn’t mean everyone who gets an iPhone is an idiot.
I would much rather have left this kind of tech chest-beating over at reddit.
Those who are still on the ‘apple bad’ train like to forget they are running an OS built by an ads company.
Every phone manufacturer has some bad shit, I choose to stick with apple cuz I already have a big library of paid stuff.
Firstly running Android != running Google on it.
Secondly you prove exactly the point. They try to make you dependent on their proprietary technology, forcing you to use their app store, apps, chargers, repair shops, desktop OS, TVs etc. (you can circumvent each of these point, but it requires always some amount of technical time investment).
Excuse you, I use CalyxOS on my phone. I also use Linux on my PC. Am I allowed back on the “apple bad” train? Tbh, I don’t think Apple products are bad. I just hate the company, just like many MANY others.
Apple products are fine, generally well built and easy to use, especially if you value multiple interconnected devices.
The major con is all the horrible tactics Apple uses to protect it’s walled garden. Without that, they can’t extort users into staying because we know their devices and price are not the reason.
FTFY.
At least they with android can change and look at everything since its open source. Root and toot. Ios will fall due to its lock ins just like Microsoft once did. Same same but different.
I’ve been flashing custom firmware on my phone since before Android was a thing, I’ll have you know my OS is built by dodgy Russian hackers installed on a dodgy Chinese phone, thank you very much.
Hi, I’m sorry that this makes you feel uncomfortable. It wasn’t my aim to make people feel that way. Even if I was making fun of Apple devices and users it doesn’t reflect the whole spectrum of my feelings. I do think that Apple has made some technological milestones and that their products are a strong alternative comparing them to the other ones (Windows Phone *cough cough)
Even if Apple isn’t my favourite brand I still believe that competition drives progress which is why I’m actually glad Apple is such a big competition and vice versa. And it is because of users like you.
I don’t really want to denounce Apple users for their phone choice. As I see it we’ve all chosen our phone by our past influences and experiences, and those naturally differ so there’s no objective right and wrong here. Ultimately, you choose what suits you best!
And to be really fair, the only phones I’ve seen so far that would tick off all the boxes are old Android phones and the Fairphones.
Ah nah, it’s OK I wasn’t talking to you specifically. The meme is fine by itself – it just attracts certain types that do like to say the kind of things I was referring to. Perhaps I should have replied to one of the other comments I saw that said this instead.
Anyways, don’t let it get to you. It’s your decision anyways. In that regard, have a nice day :D
holy crap two people are having a civil discussion wtf
i lovve lemmy
Fuck Apple
I don’t really mind the non-replacable batteries tbh. Water resistance is much harder when you need to design your phone with a removable battery.
I do want the SD card slots back though. I don’t care about having two Sim cards, I want my enormous local storage that I can transfer in 8-10 seconds back
Yeah but I want to see change, I don’t want such a stupid greedy company win a single customer. Customers are mostly not knowing anything what they are doing and just do such a stupid decision because Apple markets Iphones with 99% satisfaction of user reports which is 100% fake and just marketing… like privacy, its just marketing. There is no privacy.
If privacy is your concern the better option could be e.g. some google free android variant. There are several other OSes that are specialised in this regard and I think it’s not a pro argument for apple.
No we can’t.