• Letstakealook@lemm.ee
    29·
    9 months ago

    As a consumer of both, I believe the people that think pot is a personality and vomit pseudoscience really do a disservice to all the other regular folks who also use cannabis. Not that alchohol doesn’t have comparable types (“I can’t drink so much without feeling it!”), it has just been socially acceptable for a longer period of time.

    • Pistcow@lemm.ee
      9·
      9 months ago

      I fucking hate that type and when they stink up a whole fucking grocery store from the other side of the building. Theyre just as bad as alcoholics.

      • Jax@sh.itjust.works
        2·
        9 months ago

        Yeah but those people are just fucking idiots destroying their lungs in a hotbox. IIRC, it doesn’t get you any higher. THC doesn’t stay active in smoke for that long.

        • Sharp312
          3·
          9 months ago

          Not just lungs, but brain too. From my understanding the reason you “feel higher” is literally just because you get less oxygen since the room is filled with second hand smoke. Big brain moves lol

          • ReakDuck@lemmy.ml
            1·
            9 months ago

            Yeah, thats why I get so stoned in fesh air eating a brownie… bruh…

            I missunderstood what you wrote.

            I never did a hotbox so Idk if it makes you higher. Maybe you are right. But I dont really think this impacts your brain because of less oxygen.

            • Jax@sh.itjust.works
              2·
              9 months ago

              I can confirm, using the power of science, that THC does not stay in its psychoactive state below a certain temperature. The only way it can is if it binds to something, typically some kind of fat. That’s why an edible can get you high days after it was made.

              Basically, weed might stink a little more than tobacco but not by much. The only reason you smell someone that stinks of weed is the same reason you smell someone that stinks of cigarettes: they sat in the smoke and it stuck to them.

              Having been a stoner for years, I’ve never once had someone comment on the smell. Sure, I suppose it’s possible that literally everyone I know and have potentially interacted with on an olfactory level was just being polite but… I doubt it.

        • Pistcow@lemm.ee
          1·
          9 months ago

          Had a friend that just posted instagram videos of him smoking pot every 15 minutes. Also the guy that asked for my help to tour apartments amd after touring one he asked me to cosign for him.

          • Jax@sh.itjust.works
            1·
            9 months ago

            An idiot being an idiot is an idiot being an idiot, I’m willing to bet you do something in your day to day life that I could easily stigmatize just as easily.

    • Ephera@lemmy.ml
      3·
      9 months ago

      As a comsumer of none, you all look like junkies to me (including the cigarette/vape and coffee people). 🙃

        • Ephera@lemmy.ml
          1·
          9 months ago

          Never in my life has someone been impressed by that. They always just feel personally attacked, for no good reason.

          • blunderworld@lemmy.caEnglish
            13·
            9 months ago

            Maybe the reason here is that you implied that anyone with habits you personally consider to be undesirable are junkies?

            • Ephera@lemmy.ml
              2·
              9 months ago

              Well, I was hoping that indicating the unseriousness of my message with the “🙃” emoji would suffice to make even people, who deem “junkie” an insult, realize that it was at most said tongue-in-cheek.

              And I do not consider these habits undesirable in other people, obviously so long as no one is brought in danger by drunk driving or such. They just don’t align with my own personal vision for my own life.

              If I need to write any more legalese to justify a stupid one-liner, I will lose my fucking mind. We’re literally in a community for jokes.

              • blunderworld@lemmy.caEnglish
                6·
                9 months ago

                Hey, you don’t have to do anything. Just don’t be surprised if people call you out for condescending language.

                • Ephera@lemmy.ml
                  1·
                  9 months ago

                  Yes, my world. Why is it bad to take drugs? There’s no moral imperative that makes it so.

      • Sizzler@slrpnk.net
        3·
        9 months ago

        Now look here, when you write such a toxic statement you have to spell everything right, including consumer otherwise you really just look stupid.

        • Ephera@lemmy.ml
          1·
          9 months ago

          You’re the one interpreting “junkie” or “addict” as an insult. I did not intend for it to be toxic, so I’ll typo all day long, tgank tou veey muxh.

          • Cagi@lemmy.ca
            8·
            9 months ago

            Calling someone a junkie is an insult. You are using the term wrong if you think it is not a pejorative. Looking at your comments, you absolutely do look down on casual imbibers, you just don’t think you do. It’s “I’m not racist, but…” kind of thinking.

            • Ephera@lemmy.ml
              1·
              9 months ago

              Yes, when other people use the word “junkie”, it is often said as an insult. Which is why I followed it up with “🙃”. But ultimately, my intent was not toxic, was my point.

              And well, it’s cool that you can read so much into my psychology from a handful of comments, but I’m not sure why I should care. Talk to me for half an hour about nihilism, then I might care about your judgement.

        • Ephera@lemmy.ml
          2·
          9 months ago

          I don’t know any, to be honest. If you’re not just enjoying the hot beverage, flavor or even the effects of the caffeine, but rather you’re dependent on it – as in, you fall into a bleak mood, if you can’t have it – then yeah, I would categorize that as the same.

          I mean, so long as your dependence doesn’t negatively affect your or other people’s lives, I don’t really care. Personally, I just detest the thought of being dependent on specific substances.

            • Ephera@lemmy.ml
              1·
              9 months ago

              I could also find some “socially bad” chemical in foods you eat and harass you and look down upon you for it.

              Half my message was specifically written to say that I don’t do this. People look like drug addicts to me. And I’m not looking down on drug addicts.

              You are also dependent on various natural chemicals in the food you eat.

              Yes, I’m not a fan of that either. Doesn’t mean, I can change it.

          • psud@aussie.zone
            2·
            9 months ago

            Coffee withdrawal for many people includes vicious headaches, aside from the everyday uselessness of addicts before their first cup each day

  • 5in1k@lemm.ee
    8·
    9 months ago

    Idk. I work with a both bunch of sad old drunks and several stoners. The old drunks are in way way worse shape than the old stoners. They can look down like that all the want but their sad old ladies are behind them crying for sure.