After the ban of the c/christians community for having a rule against LGBTQ+ content. I wonder where is the actual line of what is allowed and what is not on this instance. (https://lemmy.world/post/1762563)
There are plenty of instances allowing hate speech against religious people. Looking through them I can see how they can be pretty offensive for someone who was brought up religious.
For example !atheistmemes@lemmy.world.
From their description
No Pro-Religious or Anti-Atheist Content.
Some of the content:
- https://lemmy.world/post/1783216
- https://lemmy.world/post/1766629
- https://lemmy.world/post/1591110
- https://lemmy.world/post/1585721
To clarify, I do not feel offended, as I am in no capacity religious and I am an atheist also. I also do not ask for the removal of that community as I don’t believe neither of the two should be removed.
But going through the content on atheistmemes the content there is far worse and more offending than it was on c/christians. While on c/christians only the rules where marginally breaking the rules, while there were no content that was in violation. This community in my opinion does both.
Allowing anti religion community while banning the pro religion one is creating a real deficit of different opinions here.
What is your opinion? Do you think that one should be allowed while the other not and why?
It is absolutely shocking to me the number of “I am an atheist but…” posts with crazy false equivalence arguments I have seen in the past several weeks on Lemmy.
It’s understandable as the religious people also migrate away from Reddit. The fediverse cuts down their stupid “equal time for dissent” argument. The fediverse explicitly enables them to fuck off and start their own instance where they can put up their own rules and federate with whoever they want.
I’m with world on this one. Punch the damn nazis in their faces. No false arguments about tolerance here.
It is absolutely outrageous to call religious people nazis.
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Not all Nationalist Christians are Nazis… but almost all Nazis are NatCs.
Evangelical Christians and Nazis share most of their positions.
I do know some hardcore Orthodox Christians, and they are some of the kindest people I know. Far from being nazis
Nice Nazis are still Nazis. You may not be their target group yet, but it will come.
The two are different. My mother and the mother of my childhood best friend are some of the kindest people I’ve ever known. In the past 5 years I’ve discovered they support putting people in cages, selective human rights, and general Q adjacent beliefs that came from nowhere that I could see. They both are religious, not hardcore orthodox by any means, but both are indoctrinated weekly and it has changed them fundamentally. They’re still extremely kind and generous but don’t mistake that they would absolutely agree with a religious based government and whatever killings it deems necessary.
A decade ago I would have bet a million dollars I’d never hear those things from either of them. You’re right, they aren’t nazis. They’re Christofascists.
Well, all nazis consider themselves Christian
This is not true:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relations_between_Nazi_Germany_and_the_Arab_world#/media/File:Bundesarchiv_Bild_146-1980-036-05,_Amin_al_Husseini_bei_bosnischen_SS-Freiwilligen.jpg
This is such a fucking wild take - I doubt you’d actually say that to a religious person’s face, let alone punch it.
Care to explain why is it a false equivalence?
And yes people can still be atheists but stand for the right of freedom of religious expression. The same way someone who is straight can stand for the right of free sexual orientation.
One is a community of people saying “these people should be killed” the other is “these ideas are stupid”. You didn’t link anything from atheist memes that advocates the death of religious people.
But you are just assuming, you have no proof of this kind of posts on c/christians. They were not banned because of content, but because of not allowing pro LGBTQ+ content. Please read the linked post first. (https://lemmy.world/post/1762563)
It’s a new audience for old trolls.