In an apparent effort to boost revenues, gaming social media startup Discord plans to implement ads into its free service. The step is expected in the coming days after 9 years of ad-free experience.
I don’t think people on this sub use it, but it’s great news for us. The worse it gets the likelier people move on.
Did they rewrite that crappy Python server in something with better performance by now? I tried self-hosting Matrix a few years ago and gave up after the one room I joined hadn’t finished syncing after a whole day (admittedly it was their main matrix chat room with lots of members but still).
Sliding sync doesn’t make joining Matrix HQ any faster. This is depending on your hardware and whether or not you have any workers configured. For most users it isn’t worth joining that room anyway.
It’s the amount of users and servers in the room. When you join it on a new server it needs to process and verify the state of the room and agree it with all the servers. As the state is massive in this room it can take a very long time to join it.
It depends on your skillset. If you can self host services in docker, matrix should not be an issue anymore. Its still nowhere ready for everyone at this point but is constantly improving.
Docker changes nothing about the performance characteristics of a service. If anything back then a full server dedicated to it wouldn’t have been enough.
i know that. My comment was concerning the „hostability“ in general. The performance is okay imo. Joining large rooms will still take a couple minutes but no whole day.
Idk, me and all my friends use discord for vc, plus screenshots and memes while we chat. You can do that in mumble. Not sure about broadcasting or anything (I started a server yesterday after the news broke), maybe there are extensions. Discord is just a means to an end for us.
mumble is free and open source.
So is Matrix and it includes self-hosting and end-to-end encryption enabled by default.
Did they rewrite that crappy Python server in something with better performance by now? I tried self-hosting Matrix a few years ago and gave up after the one room I joined hadn’t finished syncing after a whole day (admittedly it was their main matrix chat room with lots of members but still).
https://matrix.org/ecosystem/servers/
There are multiple options for homeservers and the Python one is just one of several implementations. There are others written in C++, Rust, Go!, etc.
Just don’t make a new install with Dendrite - it’s not really supported anymore. And no automated automation for us who do have Dendrite servers …
Synapse if you plan to go large, otherwise Conduit, would be my recommendation.
is your automation automated? mine’s manual I’m jealous
That hasn’t been an issue for a year if you’ve enabled sliding sync. It is very fast nowadays. Look into element-x https://github.com/element-hq/element-x-android
Sliding sync doesn’t make joining Matrix HQ any faster. This is depending on your hardware and whether or not you have any workers configured. For most users it isn’t worth joining that room anyway.
Why not? I’m not in mhq but why is it different than other rooms?
It’s the amount of users and servers in the room. When you join it on a new server it needs to process and verify the state of the room and agree it with all the servers. As the state is massive in this room it can take a very long time to join it.
If you want to learn more read this: https://matrix.org/docs/older/stateres-v2/
Thx. So the first time the server joins the room it’s slow. Any subsequent joins are faster
Correct! Although if you are the only user on the server subsequent joins don’t matter.
Element X is a client.
Element doesn’t support sliding sync
It depends on your skillset. If you can self host services in docker, matrix should not be an issue anymore. Its still nowhere ready for everyone at this point but is constantly improving.
Docker changes nothing about the performance characteristics of a service. If anything back then a full server dedicated to it wouldn’t have been enough.
i know that. My comment was concerning the „hostability“ in general. The performance is okay imo. Joining large rooms will still take a couple minutes but no whole day.
Isn’t Mumble just a voice chat software? I don’t think that is the main use case for Discord for most people.
Yeah, discord is for running a community not just chatting in voice.
Idk, me and all my friends use discord for vc, plus screenshots and memes while we chat. You can do that in mumble. Not sure about broadcasting or anything (I started a server yesterday after the news broke), maybe there are extensions. Discord is just a means to an end for us.
And no one uses it. The last time I used mumble was over a decade ago and its use was short lived.