• MotoAsh@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    You can disagree all you want but value is absolutely and always associated with (at least perceived) scarcity.

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      8 months ago

      Only sometimes. Not always. The value of many things comes with commonality. Social media for example would be worthless for only one person.

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      8 months ago

      I think this is a matter of terminology.

      You’re talking monetary value/worth only. They’re talking about value and worth in a broader sense.

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        8 months ago

        Even there, something gets MORE worth when it’s used again, even to sit on a shelf and look pretty.

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          8 months ago

          That, my homie, is a matter of perspective. Things can have value/worth without that as well. It ascribes value a weight based on usage rather than money. Which is fine! Value is relatively relative ;)

          Things can have value/worth without a connection to a human’s perception of that thing. It gets pretty nebulous and woo-woo, but the principle is valid.

          I guess what I’m also saying is that utilitarian thinking isn’t the only way to approach the discussion. But I’m also saying that utilitarian thinking is a valid part of the discussion. But when it comes down to utilitarian versus non utilitarian, it isn’t a discussion, it’s an argument about being right. Which is what the thread turned into towards the end.