I hope you’re right, but I honestly see our current political options as being the government’s response to our own successful pulls toward the left. “You want to force our Dems to support ever more left-leaning ideals? Well, we’ll just push our Conservatives ever further to the right, so you feel compelled to vote even for a moderate democrat to prevent them from getting power!” The government has just as much ability to force our hand as we do on it - or, more likely, even moreso. I believe this election is an example of that.
Mmm, despite what the FUD crowd here on lemmy would have u believe, the dems are not so keen on donnie dump and co. as their adversaries. They want to retain power, too. Dr. Fascismo is a massive threat to that end. On the flip side, biden and the rest of the old guard care little if we want lgbtq rights to be engrained in law, support abortion outright bc they want women to be happy spenders of money, and see climate accountability as a threat to their lobbyist friends only at the far end of that spectrum- otherwise they will vote to placate.
Obviously far leftist politics can only come via direct action, but even then democrats are a smaller boot to deal with and should be embraced as the enemy of our enemy.
I think there’s a lot more comradery between politicians across the aisle than they let on publicly. I agree with the final statement, though “embraced” is a far stronger word than I’d pick.
I once would have agreed with u, but ithink that comradery has been tainted ever since trumps coattails brought on crazies like greene, boebert, and their ilk. They have no regard for politics as any of the old guard know it. Instead they seek to push russia friendly legislation exclusively. Thats not something any of even the corporate dems can get behind.
I chose “embraced” precisely bc it is a strong word. Ive been having a grand old time building the sort of bridges with liberals that leftists have been telling me for a long time are impossible to make. The working class needs to again feel the leftist arm extended to them. They may not want to get involved in direct action, but they are willing recipients of leftist politics when they are presented before them in a friendly manner.
I mean, I don’t often see a democratic voter who doesn’t want to vote for a much farther left candidate - the issue is whether or not we’ll be able to vote for one outside of voting 3rd party, which isn’t an option that’s going to be seen as legitimate any time soon. In the primaries, a majority of people just vote for the guy from their party who they think has the best chance of winning, which is pretty much always the one who got the most media attention.
I don’t believe the American people wanted Biden to be the democratic candidate of 2020, I believe he was the guy the news companies focused on, and so blue voters voted for him because they thought everyone else was voting for him, wanting to band together against Trump. I hope the issue was Trump himself, and that once he’s not running for president anymore we won’t feel so forced to pick “whoever will win,” but I don’t really have any faith that some Trump-esque candidate won’t just rise up to replace him for the next election.
I hope you’re right, but I honestly see our current political options as being the government’s response to our own successful pulls toward the left. “You want to force our Dems to support ever more left-leaning ideals? Well, we’ll just push our Conservatives ever further to the right, so you feel compelled to vote even for a moderate democrat to prevent them from getting power!” The government has just as much ability to force our hand as we do on it - or, more likely, even moreso. I believe this election is an example of that.
Mmm, despite what the FUD crowd here on lemmy would have u believe, the dems are not so keen on donnie dump and co. as their adversaries. They want to retain power, too. Dr. Fascismo is a massive threat to that end. On the flip side, biden and the rest of the old guard care little if we want lgbtq rights to be engrained in law, support abortion outright bc they want women to be happy spenders of money, and see climate accountability as a threat to their lobbyist friends only at the far end of that spectrum- otherwise they will vote to placate.
Obviously far leftist politics can only come via direct action, but even then democrats are a smaller boot to deal with and should be embraced as the enemy of our enemy.
I think there’s a lot more comradery between politicians across the aisle than they let on publicly. I agree with the final statement, though “embraced” is a far stronger word than I’d pick.
I once would have agreed with u, but ithink that comradery has been tainted ever since trumps coattails brought on crazies like greene, boebert, and their ilk. They have no regard for politics as any of the old guard know it. Instead they seek to push russia friendly legislation exclusively. Thats not something any of even the corporate dems can get behind.
I chose “embraced” precisely bc it is a strong word. Ive been having a grand old time building the sort of bridges with liberals that leftists have been telling me for a long time are impossible to make. The working class needs to again feel the leftist arm extended to them. They may not want to get involved in direct action, but they are willing recipients of leftist politics when they are presented before them in a friendly manner.
I mean, I don’t often see a democratic voter who doesn’t want to vote for a much farther left candidate - the issue is whether or not we’ll be able to vote for one outside of voting 3rd party, which isn’t an option that’s going to be seen as legitimate any time soon. In the primaries, a majority of people just vote for the guy from their party who they think has the best chance of winning, which is pretty much always the one who got the most media attention.
I don’t believe the American people wanted Biden to be the democratic candidate of 2020, I believe he was the guy the news companies focused on, and so blue voters voted for him because they thought everyone else was voting for him, wanting to band together against Trump. I hope the issue was Trump himself, and that once he’s not running for president anymore we won’t feel so forced to pick “whoever will win,” but I don’t really have any faith that some Trump-esque candidate won’t just rise up to replace him for the next election.
I think you should take medicine for your paranoia