• mholiv@lemmy.world
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    That’s the model. Poland and other countries can build similar projects. Are you being intentionally obtuse?

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      Poland and other countries can build similar projects.

      They don’t. Therefore it’s not managed.

      Are you being intentionally obtuse?

      Your need to lash out with personal attacks shows that you know that your argument holds no water.

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        My argument is that we CAN manage nuclear waste. That facility shows that we CAN. Poland CAN build such a facility. Ergo we CAN.

        More importantly we CANNOT manage CO2.

        I asked if you were being intentionally obtuse because you tried to reframe my argument as we ARE managing nuclear waste in all places properly. Everyone knows we are not. But the good news is that we can.

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          That facility shows that we CAN.

          Nobody has ever successfully managed nuclear waste for 100,000 years. All you CAN do is make baseless claims and lash out with insults.

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            your argument boils down “Humanity has not managed nuclear waste for for 100.000 years. Therefore humanity can not manage nuclear waste for for 100.000 years“

            If you feel in your heart of hearts that this is your strongest argument so be it.

            I don’t feel this is a strong argument at all. I believe humanity can use the Finnish model and will do well. Hell we built tombs that have remained intact for over 2000 years. Those were built with Bronze Age technology. With modern technology I believe we can do even better.

            This all being said the larger issue is that we CANNOT manage CO2. CO2 is the existential threat we must face.

            As for insults I don’t want you to feel insulted. I believe people who read this thread will see that I was not insulting in any way.

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              This all being said the larger issue is that we CANNOT manage CO2.

              A) Baseless claim.

              B) Alternative to fossil enegery is regnerative, not nuclear power where the entire feasibility study of locking away waste is “trust me bro”.

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                I would argue that the alternative to fossil fuels is “both and”.

                We should use both renewable, nuclear, and other approaches as we develop them. We need to keep an open mind here. Climate change is a major threat.

                You keep on acting like there is no way to manage nuclear waste. Is building out a real and complete storage facility with 100.000 year management plan “trust me bro” in your mind? Because I see it as more than that.

                The Finnish model exists and is well regarded. You can’t just pretend it does not exist.

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                  I would argue that the alternative to fossil fuels is “both and”.

                  You argue a lot of things, as long as nuclear waste comes out as totally fine.

                  The Finnish model exists and is well regarded.

                  Well regarded by nuclear fans, of course. Nobody is denying that. Totally unproven to work because nobody tried it, yet. That thing’s construction isn’t even finished. Check back in 100000 years until making further claims. I’ll revoke my misgivings once it’s proven to work. Until then don’t pile up new waste.