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Wait, how will this affect ScoMo’s gas led recovery?
Who?
Other states will follow suit, I think the ACT already requires new builds to be ‘gasless’, or, at least, they aren’t building the gas infrastructure into new suburbs.
I’d love to get rid of gas. I think an induction cooktop is possible and would be beneficial, but the hot water might be a bit more difficult. The daily connection fee is annoying so I’d like to cut it out entirely rather than just reduce it.
i do prefer gas over induction. I like to eat stir fry which requires wok-hei, which induction stove top would not offer.
I see a true blue Aussie
I have to wonder how much pressure the electricity network will be under with all the extra people relying on it.
I’m suddenly having flashbacks to the 90s when that gas plant explosion happened. Two weeks of heating up water in a barrel and having baths.
With electricity the sole source of energy, any critical failure means the entire state is a bit fucked, unless we can rely from power from other states as a backup. But we’d have to make sure those states have sufficient power to export and the right transmission infrastructure to support it.
I’d love to say it’s all sweet, but given the drama last year with load shedding, I just hope they’ve thought this through.
By the way I’m not advocating the continued use of dirty fossil fuels, but I would like the transition to different mixes of energy sources managed competently.
It’s just new builds, they’re not forcing people to get rid of their existing connections. It should be easy to phase in, and hopefully batteries and the like come down in price.
I thought it was the installation of new gas appliances in existing buildings as well, but I may have misunderstood.
It’s literally the title of this thread.
How would you like me to respond that? If you want to be a b*tch, Reddit is still very much operational.
For people like me that don’t know Australia:
Victoria is a state in southeastern Australia. It is the second-smallest state, with a land area of 227,444 km2 (87,817 sq mi); the second-most-populated state (after New South Wales), with a population of over 6.7 million;[3] and the most densely populated state[9] in Australia (29 per km2). Vict
Question for locals: do you need gas connections?
Side question: do you have fireplaces, gas or otherwise?
I’m curious about this as well. The climate there can easily support efficient electric heat sources (heat pump) in the cold season. Gas ranges/hobs are nice but induction is pretty good now.
I’ve just replaced a gas stove with induction. It’s far better than the gas stove was and I never want to go back.
Also replaced the gas water heater with a heat pump. The gas bill went way down, and the electricity bill didn’t go up.
Is the heat pump system continuous/unlimited, or tank-based? I have enjoyed the luxury of never running out of hot water on gas, but weighed against squandering a finite resource and/or destroying the planet it’s hardly a necessity for our two-person household.
As for cooking, I’ve heard nothing but good things about modern induction setups and a rapidly growing body of research highlighting the toxic byproducts of gas stoves/ovens - even when turned off - due to inevitable leaks from imperfect seals and aging equipment.
The last big argument for gas cooking seems to be wok burners, but I just did a quick google and not only is wok induction a thing now, but it looks sci-fi af so I’m here for it. They’re not cheap yet, but I imagine that’s only a matter of time as adoption picks up.
The heat pump uses a 315L tank. The heat pump only runs during the day, so we either have enough solar power to run it, or cheaper electricity at that time.
We have run out of hot water a few times, but with even minimal planning it’s not really a problem.
We decided to get a split heat pump and tank (rather than an integrated system) as they tend to be quieter and more efficient. It’s barely audible when standing next to it, and provides a great place to sit in summer.
Good to know, thanks! Renting atm so we’re stuck with whatever we have for now, but I’m keeping a list of nice-to-haves when we eventually buy our own place.
French here, we have the same kind of regulation since 2020 I believe.
Do you produce gas in Australia?
Here it’s all imported (and it was mostly from Russia before the Ukraine war) and we produce electricity mostly from nuclear plants so it’s easy to push gas out the homes.
It’s produced in Australia and mostly exported. Only Western Australia was smart enough to make sure they set some domestic production aside for domestic use instead of being forced to pay global prices. Everyone on the eastern seaboard had to swallow a spike in energy prices across the board when the Ukraine war started.
We sell it to other country’s for less than what we sell it to ourselves, also sorry about the submarines.
For refereance:
Shit loads of it, along with coal its a massive earner for export.
Our two major political parties have so much coal and gas money pumping into them that anything that may reduce the profitability doesn’t get far.
We don’t have gas at home but I think it’s stupidly expensive as a local consumer too.
Yeah, but its more valuable as an export than it is domestically.
Australia loves green initiatives locally but REALLY loves our trillion dollar coal and gas export industry.
Why natural gas isn’t considered green?
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Fucling idiots
Yeah trying to do something about the environment, - what fucking imbeciles, us geniuses go headfirst into extinction with pride!
I’d (genuinly) like to ask why natural gas isn’t considered green? Also, not one prediction says that humans are going to/might extinct and that is just a fact.
Because it’s not a renewable and it’s got polluting outputs from its use?
And it’s called hyperbole mate, don’t take everything so literally.
