https://hachyderm.io/@thisismissem/110550824230711531
Okay, so, I’ve just done a review of the #moderation features in both #Lemmy and #kbin. I’ve written up a fuller report on the IFTAS matrix, but the tl;dr is: if you care about user safety, do not deploy either of these. They do not feature comprehensive or well built moderation tools, and you will not be able to effectively moderate instances running this software. You are better off waiting to deploy these once they mature more. Edit: removed user mentions to stop spamming them.
I mean, they’re not entirely wrong. The moderation/administration tools are just not developed yet. But that’s what you get with beta services.
on the other hand, they won’t mature very quickly if there’s no early adopters.
The need creates the will to implement it.
I don’t understand why these types of people come to the Fediverse if what they want is total control of their community and all interactions within it. Just create a closed message board with restricted sign-ups.
I don’t think a lack of “total control” is the issue that OP is talking about. Regardless of how much control one wants to have over their instance, they still need the ability to effectively moderate illegal content.
OP didn’t link their fuller report (the source for their statement is “trust me bro” I guess?), but the only mod tools required to moderate illegal content are objectively the delete and ban buttons, so they are already incorrect on that front. When these people talk about user safety (pay attention to the terminology), they mean “preventing all content that makes them uncomfortable from ever appearing on their screen”. Then yes, Lemmy does not have those moderation features, because Lemmy’s tools for this are blocking federation and restricting sign-ups. I agree that moderation tools on Lemmy need improvement but we need to read in between the lines here.
They get to police other instances that way, I guess.
