• pooberbee (they/she)@lemmy.ml
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    5 months ago

    You’re assuming a lot about a person’s situation who would be traveling internationally with a baby. They may not have a choice. In general, babies and their parents have as much right to exist in public as you do. Of course the courteous thing to do when your child is being disruptive is to try and calm them or remove them from the situation, but that’s not always possible. I’ve gone into a restaurant with a very happy baby that only turns sour after the food is ordered. All you can do sometimes is just try to mitigate it until you can get your food in to-go boxes and get out. Also worth noting that the main issue with flying for babies is the pressure change and not being able to deal with it. People will often yawn or chew gum to relieve it, and for babies you can give them a bottle or something chewy (depending on age) and it does the same thing.

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      Unless you’re literally moving across the world there’s no excuse. Just take the train and get a sleeper car if you need to travel long distance continental.

      Order take away from the start if you want restaurant food so bad, wait for the movie to come out on stream if you want to see it so bad, just stop putting your loud and uncontrollable kids onto everyone else.

      If you spend half the energy actually parenting the kids that you just did defending why you shouldn’t have to even if they disrupt everyone else’s time in public, you’d have kids that wouldn’t be an issue well on schedule.

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        What the hell? You don’t know me or my kids, why are you coming at me about my parenting? You’re talking out of your ass about raising kids. They don’t go straight from babies to adults, there is a lot of in-between, trial-and-error. Sometimes they cry, in public even (gasp), and we handle it. Sometimes they misbehave and we handle it. They’re not going to learn anything by being locked away from society. And if being out in public with other people who might have children with them is so hard for you, maybe you should order in and watch Netflix.

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        Just take the train and get a sleeper car if you need to travel long distance continental.

        A. Trains? What trains? We don’t have shit for trains here.

        B. Oceans? Did you consider those?

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          A. Literally all of those High Speed Rail fantasy maps are just superimposed on existing routes.

          B. You do realize that makes taking the kid on the plane even worse right, there are passenger ships that travel between the continents.

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            Travel by land/sea is WAY more expensive and WAAAAAY more time-consuming than flying. If you can’t deal with a relatively short flight where there’s a chance that a child might make some noise, I’d recommend YOU take the land or sea route. Much more comfortable, please enjoy.