Welcome to the evolution of Supernova!
www.thunderbird.net
Thunderbird is a free email application that’s easy to set up and customize - and it’s loaded with great features!

Updates in code base, interface, mobile development, plus improvements to the look and feel on Linux. Pretty cool to see!

    • @maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone
      10•4 months ago

      There are going to be two clients for an unspecified period of time. Same code base, different branding. It’s not possible to take an existing app released through the app stores and rebrand it. The new Thunderbird app will have import tools to help folks transition.

      • @bdonvr@thelemmy.club
        24•4 months ago

        I mean you can rebrand an app, just not the package name. And users won’t see that. So they could rename it Thunderbird even though the package name would stay “com.fsck.k9”. It’s not at all uncommon.

        Though I’m sure they have their reasons for not doing that.

          • @electricprism@lemmy.ml
            4•3 months ago

            Unfortunate, all the new users I know would prefer TB branding, or at least a toggle button in the Settings. The icon and name throw them off since they are already Desktop users.

            • @gedaliyah@lemmy.worldOP
              1•3 months ago

              They’ve said that they will use the TB name when it is at parity with the desktop client. Even then, they may use both names. It’s possible that there are people who are using k9 who prefer it and may not even know that it is connected with TB.

              They have not set a timeline for when they expect to be there, but they have set a roadmap.

          • lemmyvoreEnglish
            1•3 months ago

            Try Claws Mail too while you’re at it, if you’re on Linux. Most powerful email client on Linux, with everything OP mentioned (some of it available as plugins, but your distro should install those too).

            • @electricprism@lemmy.ml
              3•3 months ago

              I saw the popularity on AUR several times and installed but couldn’t figure out why people use it.

              Their website cites GDPR or whatever and is honestly kindof meh.

              I was interested in the conversation layout, advanced email headers and recoloring things like folders but idk if they have that or not.

              Also I’ve always been annoyed that half the dialogs are integrated tabs and the compose email is a window that can’t be nested. I can’t remember if they fixed that or not.

              I wasn’t personally impressed by the logo, it reminded me of a 2000s Mozilla but maybe that was intended. It didn’t have enough distinguishment from other Mozilla products while communicating that it was for Email or related to Thunderbird. It honestly looks like a browser.

              /opinion

    • @communism@lemmy.ml
      6•4 months ago

      What have you been using instead? I’ve been using Thunderbird since I was 13 at least, literally never used a single other desktop mail client since then. So I wonder what other mail clients people use.

      • @418_im_a_teapot@lemmy.world
        7•4 months ago

        I’ve been an Airmail (Mac) user for many years now. But it’s been really buggy lately and there’s no motivation to fix the issues apparently. So I switched to Thunderbird about a month ago after a lot of research. It’s … ok.

        • Search is great.
        • Seeing stats/charts on my last 20 years of emails is super interesting.
        • Composing emails is not great, but I use a markdown plugin that makes it better … but it’s still pretty bad UX.
        • I hate the way it quotes previous emails with “>” for each line instead of an indented block quote. Maybe I’m missing the setting to turn that off.
        • I miss having an avatar/icon for each sender. It let me quickly visually scan my inbox for the person I want to talk to instead of parsing through all the text.
        • The spacing of elements in certain places is weird and inconsistent. In places where it’s too tight it feels cramped and bothers me.
        • You can’t compose a reply inline. You just have to use a floating window on top of the rest of the app.
        • I miss the one-key shortcuts to label and archive emails. This was originally a GMail feature and Airmail also implemented it.
        • Sending an email doesn’t happen in the background. You have to stare at a progress bar modal while it sends, and it seems to take forever. I just want to move on to my next email but I’m stuck waiting.
        • The tabbed interface is really nice. It’s definitely an underrated feature.
        • I wish it had super advanced rules like you get with MailMate. But what it offers is fine for 99% of users.

        Again, I might be missing some settings to correct some of these issues, so take it all with a grain of salt. But these are my takeaways after about a month of usage.

        • @cRazi_man@lemm.ee
          6•4 months ago

          Search is great?

          One of my biggest issues with Thunderbird is that I can never find emails I want.

          • @gedaliyah@lemmy.worldOP
            6•4 months ago

            It has the most powerful search of any email client I’ve used. That was one of the reasons I switched. What issues have you had?

          • @octochamp@lemmy.ml
            6•4 months ago

            Search works really well for me. Definitely reveals a less aesthetic side of Thunderbird but it works!

            A works to archive messages btw, I’m not sure about a shortcut for labels though.

          • @InFerNo@lemmy.ml
            2•3 months ago

            What a weird thing to read. I open my work’s email in thunderbird because the search is so good. Outlook is really slow when searching for something and so so tedious.

          • @418_im_a_teapot@lemmy.world
            1•4 months ago

            In all fairness, my usage is still minimal at this point. I’ve only searched a couple of times, but the thing I needed popped right up. Maybe my experience will change over time.

        • @gedaliyah@lemmy.worldOP
          1•4 months ago

          Apple seems to have a lot more variety in the email client ecosystem than Win or Linux. One of those weird unexpected things.

        • @gedaliyah@lemmy.worldOP
          3•4 months ago

          I couldn’t handle all the changes to outlook over the past year or so. I’ve been pretty impressed by Thunderbird. It’s not perfect, but it keeps getting better and better with each release.

    • @fxt_ryknow@lemmy.world
      2•4 months ago

      I used evolution for a min, it wasnt bad… But, ive been using thunderbird for so long, i didnt stray for long.

  • @dwt@feddit.orgDeutsch
    2•3 months ago

    I particular look forward to the native exchange integration.

    Email already works, but is behind a feature flag still. But it’s finally visibly progressing.

  • Amanda
    1•3 months ago

    Can it search email now? I tried finding an email about two weeks ago and i had to give up and search on my phone.