They want to get paid in some way and they offer the reader the option: pay with your privacy or pay with your money?
Or feel free to close the tab if both options are unacceptable. There are a lot of spamblogs written by chatgpt that allow to read the regurgitated content without accepting cookies, for example.
Maybe it’s infuriating because if you really want to read the content you’re forced to waste 1 second to right click => open in incognito window or waste 1 minute to sign up for a subscription, but I don’t think it’s asshole design, because they have to pay bills. You don’t want sponsored news pieces and fake reviews in that website either, no?
Now if it was like Facebook where the option is “pay with your privacy or pay with your privacy AND with your money”, that would be asshole design
Opening in incognito doesnt give you any privacy, they still going to match you using IP and browser fingerprint to get (almost) the same person matching as allowing all cookies.
Cookies just makes it easier.
For me if its a page I opened first time I will just close it and open next search result.
If this page/domain is something I see quite often then depending on the price I might pay.
Paying full monthly price for single page visit is stupid they will have a hard time to convince me to pay. And paying with privacy is out for me.
Waiting for time when they start using centralized payment system that will allow me to pay small amount per visit, like lightning or BAT.
But at that point is paranoia. If you’re worried about tracking via IP address, then there are no websites that you can visit. You can count on a single hand the websites that do no logging whatsoever. Even if you reject cookies, the IP address is always visible server side. Better to sell all your devices and go back living completely offline like in the 80s.
Not true, I’m just fighting the myth that incognito mode gives you (any) privacy.
Company have many legal reasons to store my IP and they do so, don’t have a problem with it, but they can’t use it legally for advertising without consent. You are agreeing to tracking, that in turn allow them to use your IP for tracking, it doesnt matter if its in incognito mode as now they can track you legally also outside. So your comment about using incognito is just plain wrong.
Ultimatily it’s about the rules (including gdpr), I don’t agree/approve to be tracked and don’t want my visit to be linked to me, so if the website like that don’t want to provide content in exchange for ads (like in the OP case above) then they don’t need to.
I fully know they can (and probably doing it without asking because they can) track my activity to serve targeted ads. I just voice my disgust and voice my disapproval with the state the advertising is now, and propose a solution that I personally am fine with it.
Why do you think I’m using adblock and pi-hole for?
I don’t see what’s the issue.
They want to get paid in some way and they offer the reader the option: pay with your privacy or pay with your money?
Or feel free to close the tab if both options are unacceptable. There are a lot of spamblogs written by chatgpt that allow to read the regurgitated content without accepting cookies, for example.
Maybe it’s infuriating because if you really want to read the content you’re forced to waste 1 second to right click => open in incognito window or waste 1 minute to sign up for a subscription, but I don’t think it’s asshole design, because they have to pay bills. You don’t want sponsored news pieces and fake reviews in that website either, no?
Now if it was like Facebook where the option is “pay with your privacy or pay with your privacy AND with your money”, that would be asshole design
Opening in incognito doesnt give you any privacy, they still going to match you using IP and browser fingerprint to get (almost) the same person matching as allowing all cookies.
Cookies just makes it easier.
For me if its a page I opened first time I will just close it and open next search result.
If this page/domain is something I see quite often then depending on the price I might pay.
Paying full monthly price for single page visit is stupid they will have a hard time to convince me to pay. And paying with privacy is out for me.
Waiting for time when they start using centralized payment system that will allow me to pay small amount per visit, like lightning or BAT.
But at that point is paranoia. If you’re worried about tracking via IP address, then there are no websites that you can visit. You can count on a single hand the websites that do no logging whatsoever. Even if you reject cookies, the IP address is always visible server side. Better to sell all your devices and go back living completely offline like in the 80s.
Not true, I’m just fighting the myth that incognito mode gives you (any) privacy.
Company have many legal reasons to store my IP and they do so, don’t have a problem with it, but they can’t use it legally for advertising without consent. You are agreeing to tracking, that in turn allow them to use your IP for tracking, it doesnt matter if its in incognito mode as now they can track you legally also outside. So your comment about using incognito is just plain wrong.
Ultimatily it’s about the rules (including gdpr), I don’t agree/approve to be tracked and don’t want my visit to be linked to me, so if the website like that don’t want to provide content in exchange for ads (like in the OP case above) then they don’t need to.
I fully know they can (and probably doing it without asking because they can) track my activity to serve targeted ads. I just voice my disgust and voice my disapproval with the state the advertising is now, and propose a solution that I personally am fine with it.
Why do you think I’m using adblock and pi-hole for?
Yeah it’s this or track you anyway like most others
Social media ≠ news though. Giants like Facebook can suffer imo
Facebook tracking pixel? Google analytics adsense tracking?
It’s not about first party website cookies. Its third parties from over 100 other ad companies