Hey all,

I’m looking for some advice on some age appropriate punishments for my four year old when they hit/push/scratch. My older, 8 yearold is easier to pick punishments for, because we can limit or restrict certain things they like to do, but because my four year old is still in a go with the flow phase, it is a bit harder. What ideas do you have?

  • protist@mander.xyz
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    3 months ago

    This is great advice. When you want a behavior to decrease, if you don’t offer a replacement behavior, you’re likely doomed to failure. In this case, replacing hitting with hugging is a great idea. Also, punishing undesirable behavior just doesn’t work as well as rewarding desirable behavior.

    Using a token economy system, you can link earning five stars with a highly preferred reward, for example, but you need to figure out what motivates your child (Food/sweets? Access to an activity like TV or a game?) Tell them they’ll earn this reward every day when they earn 5 stars, and they earn a star by not hitting, and lose a star when they hit.

    The first time through, lay the stars on thick and quick. Make a big deal of earning each star, "great job!! You didn’t hit and you earned a star! And show them while you write it down. Give them the reward immediately after earning five stars. If they’re reliably earning their stars, space the stars out over time so that it takes more time to earn them.

    If they hit, calmly and dispassionately tell them they lost a star and show them you scratching it off, then completely withdraw your attention. It’s very important not to continue to accidentally reinforce hitting behavior with attention. If your child is getting a big reaction from someone when they hit, even if it’s a negative reaction, it’s very likely perpetuating the behavior.

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      Behaviourism (reward/punish to influence behaviour) was revolutionary 100 years ago, it’s pretty outdated by today’s educational paedagogy.

      You might get a few short term “wins”, but all you’re doing long term is teaching them to focus on the reward. They’re not learning an intrinsic value to the actions, and as such will be less likely to follow through once you’re not in the picture to punish/reward (e.g. at school, as teenagers doing teenager things, etc)

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        3 months ago

        Source? And what’s your alternative to reduce hitting behavior in this case? Reminder we’re talking about a 3 year old

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      I have friends who swear by token systems (stars, tickets, etc.) never been a huge fan myself, the kids start to respond to the incentive more than the behavior. But your mileage may vary.

      Hitting is hard. It’s very developmentally appropriate but emotionally charged. I do not mind being hit, but my wife absolutely cannot take being hit by our kids (understandably!). Sometimes she has to remove herself from the situation because her response is (again, understandably) emotional. I find that my kids need to be told what the right behavior is in that moment - to them hitting isn’t necessarily as weighty or impactful as it is to an adult. It’s just a way the feel to express their emotions, and I see it as my job to teach them other, better ways instead