• Clent@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      Losing it for life is too drastic and isn’t what any behavior specialist would suggest.

      There needs to be a path to earn it back. For example, hours of community service based on the offense and that increase with each offense.

      It would also want to incentivize future legislatures excluding people by targeting groups. The drug war and its imbalance towards treatment of minorities as an example.

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        3 months ago

        If I murder someone and lose basic income for say five years does it go up to ten years if I murder another person or could it be served concurrently?

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          3 months ago

          I would expect you’d be in prison for at least five years so are you suggesting you’ve killed someone while in prison or that basic income is the only punishment?

          In any case, I am not suggesting anything concrete here, just going forward with the thought experiment. Basic income first, then we can work on how to use it as a deterrence.

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            Oh, I was thinking of it as a replacement of the prison industry. So just let everyone remain free but just lose basic income instead. It interested me because I think I could do without the extra income, save the tax payers money, and accomplish some personal goals at the same time.

    • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      Y’all realize what you’re describing is just a poor tax, right? Anyone with significantly higher income over base income would…just break the law anyway.

      If we’re talking using money to deter crimes, it needs to be a sliding scale. You’re a millionaire and got a speeding ticket? That’ll be $50,000.

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        Aw dang it, we are only allowed to use one punishment as a country so I guess you are right. Maybe we could like, lock the rich people that commit crimes in a small room with a bed and a toilet.

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          3 months ago

          I guess you missed the if. The topic is literally regarding monetary related punishments. That does even remotely imply forgoing anything else.