• Kentaree@lemmy.world
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        Or, you know, if the IDF didn’t attack civilians. How about the settlers attacking villages on the west bank, would you be ok if there was retaliation for that seeing as they just shouldn’t be doing that?

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        How many pages of dead babies are necessary before this becomes unacceptable to you? 20? 50? 100? 200? Where’s the line where you step back and say “Okay this is too far”? Or is absolute genocide of the entirety of Palestine acceptable to you?

        You have no fucking idea whether those babies parents supported hamas or not. You have condemned all Palestinians to death because of Hamas.

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          I don’t know?

          How many pages of dead babies are necessary before Hamas releases the hostages.

          The single reason this war is ongoing is cos Hamas still has hostages.

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            So, again, there is no limit whatsoever, and you would think it to be entirely justified if Israel killed every single Palestinian?

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              How would this change if it was US or UK?

              The biggest terror attack on your own soil, and hundreds of hostages kept for months to years.

              It’d be no different.

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                Are you saying that genocide committed by the United States is fine? Or are you saying that I am fine with genocide committed by the United States?

                You also didn’t answer the question. Answer the question.

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                  I think if you look at the history of humanity you find some fucked up shit.

                  That doesn’t make any of it right. In 200yrs our descendents will look back on this time with embarrassment and our petty squabbles will mean nothing.

                  But a population having a place to call home is the single most important things for a ethnic group.

                  The options are a 2 state solution or one side genocides the other side… or another 150 years of this god forsaken conflict killing people

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            The fact you think that would stop this is pretty laughable.

            Netanyahu has said explicitly through negotiations that he would not stop the bombardment even if the hostages were released. That’s the entire reason why the deals keep getting rejected.

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              The deal keep getting rejected because BOTH Hamas and Israel. Not only because of Israel.

              The global community is accepting of Israel being at war because the hostages.

              When the hostages are returned the global community will cease all support and the pressure on Israel will immense.

              The fact you think the conflict is so simple to diagnose is pretty laughable.

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                Oh man somebody better tell Hamas that after 70 years of collectively turning the other cheek the global community is finally going to give a shit about Palestine. All they have to do is just turn over the hostages with no assurance whatsoever that the bombing campaign or larger apartheid is going to end.

                Of course they’re just idiots who don’t understand politics though so what do they know. Let’s all laugh at them as their homes and families and everything they know is destroyed by a reactionary, hostile force that has been looking for excuses to annihilate their entire ancestry, basically since its founding, for existing as Arabs on land that some asshole in England said belongs to Jews as a treat for surviving the holocaust rather than make the serious reforms to western society that would be required to ensure that Jewish people wouldn’t need the same type of ethnostate that Hitler was going for just to have self-determination and avoid persecution.

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        Uhh yeah probably not, actually.

        The death toll for babies wasn’t exactly amazing for palestinians before Israel went full gloves off and just directly started dropping bombs on them.

        You know the whole open air poorly kept prison camp thing wasn’t apparently the best place for keeping people alive in and Israel was tossing a few bombs and military stunts every now and again just to keep them on their toes and squeeze in the border every so often.

        So, all those kids ? Nah there would still be plenty of blood spillt just not all of it.