Republican hopeful pledges to ensure the FBI and Department of Justice are full of loyalists if he wins the White House in 2024

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    saw title, thought it meant abolishing the fbi, clicked, read the description, turns out it means replacing the people with party loyalists

    ffs

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        it’d be good if they actually abolished the three letter agencies. agreed that this is a worse outcome.

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            when people speak of three letter agencies usually what’s meant is fbi, cia, nsa, etc. though I’d be happy to ditch the cdc and reform the fda. doj can probably go I think. irs as well. fcc is fine but needs reforms. epa is chill.

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              This comment is giving me major Rick Perry vibes from when he wanted to abolish the DOE until he was appointed head of it and realized what they do.

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                  Actually this is an area I have loads of experience with! If you want to reduce the cost of higher education stop subsidizing student loans! I work for a huge bank that deals with zillions of student loans… They’re like free money for the banks.

                  The best way to summarize the student loan problem is thus: When you give everyone a subsidy no one gets a subsidy.

                  The US government started handing out what amounts to free money for students and colleges and universities just raised their tuition costs to collect more of it. Lather, rinse, repeat! Every year they take more and every year the US government hands out more to pick up the difference. It’s a system that’s inherently flawed.

                  The correct way to make college cheaper is to pay for colleges directly rather than funneling money through 3rd party banks (we’re literally just handing the finance industry free money… They don’t deserve it! I know because I work for them!).

                  Make colleges free by paying for them with taxes just like so many other countries.

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                fair enough. my view is that there’s a lot of government bloat and a lot of this stuff largely isn’t needed. stuff like the fda ends up blocking needed healthcare. the cdc has peddled misinformation. the fcc has threatened internet neutrality many times now. these are serious issues.

                a lot of people want government to be a nanny state but I think it’s improper. rather, governments should be focused on services to the people, not being a tyrant or “big brother”.

                I wouldn’t at all mind massive defunding to most government agencies; though notably military spending is out of control. there’s no reason we should be sending billions to ukraine, or sending troops to the middle east. simply absurd.

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                  It could be said that those agencies did do those things, but those things wouldn’t even have been a thing if it hadn’t been for them.

                  Without the FDA, rats would still probably be shitting all over our meat and dairy products, and thalidomide would still be everwhere. If it weren’t for the CDC, we probably wouldn’t have gotten rid of Small Pox or Pollio (edit: until anti-vaxers), and many millions more would have died of Covid than already did. The FCC… I’ll get back to you on that.

                  As for military bloat, for sure. I’m confident most of it is just to pad defense contractors pockets, and to grease political palms. I think we should protect Ukraine, since they were invaded by a power long hostile to the US, and to the world’s stability as a whole. As for the Middle East, I agree with you there. The US has caused so much destruction, murdering hundreds of thousands of civilians, upturning entire countries, and for what? Oil and racism. Even the excuse of 9/11 is a sham since we didn’t even attack the people that actually did it, and instead allied with them. Because, once again, oil.

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    i hate how they weaponized the fbi. its a real tragedy. the perfect example is when they announced an investigation into a political candidate days before votes were to be cast.

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      “Law and order” is a dogwhistle that means, “Maintaining existing hierarchies using the power of the state”. Sundown towns are law and order.

      Rule of law is when the laws apply equally to everyone. The red team despises this: “There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

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    Yes, and the previous asshole promised they were going to build a wall and that Mexico was going to pay for it… “…but I promised them, Enrique. I promised them”.
    The previous asshole also said he was going to “LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP…!”

    What else is new in Red Meat Labs today? Directed at idiots who have the memory retention of a fruit fly?

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    Can he just purge all of the alphabet agencies? Start with the FBI but follow right up with the ATF. Nothing of value would be lost.

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      Well, while I’d be happy to get rid of NSA and co. I’d not be happy to lose FDA. The world would be quite worse without it

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          You’re bringing up a very specific problem with the FDA that can be easily fixed with the same sort of legislation that prevents congressmen from becoming lobbyists for a number of years and talking about it like it’s an existential issue. It’s not.

          The FDA does incredibly important work preventing disease outbreaks and unsanitary food for all Americans. Perhaps you yourself are a snakeoil salesman that hates how the FDA prevents you from selling bullshit like it’s real medicine?

          Not only that but the FDA has the most strict ethics body of any Federal agency. If there’s even a hint of something unethical going on with a clinical trial the whole thing is basically cancelled. Everything must follow not only the letter of the law but the spirit as well.

          There’s plenty of Federal agencies that have weak oversight (e.g. ATF, Secret Service) but the FDA isn’t one of them.

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            You’re bringing up a very specific problem with the FDA that can be easily fixed with the same sort of legislation that prevents congressmen from becoming lobbyists for a number of years and talking about it like it’s an existential issue. It’s not.

            Lol, just fucking lmao. “Let’s add even more regulation to fix the issue caused, in large part, by regulation.”

            The FDA does incredibly important work preventing disease outbreaks and unsanitary food for all Americans. Perhaps you yourself are a snakeoil salesman that hates how the FDA prevents you from selling bullshit like it’s real medicine?

            Oh, you mean like the snakeoil salesmen that regulatory captured the FDA?

            Not only that but the FDA has the most strict ethics body of any Federal agency. If there’s even a hint of something unethical going on with a clinical trial the whole thing is basically cancelled. Everything must follow not only the letter of the law but the spirit as well.

            Laughs in the literal thousands of “Have you taken X medication, if so you may be entitled to compensation” commercials.