Hi,

Trying to move group chat from telegram to a more private option, but the key feature is its web interface which is so convenient…

I’ve checked SimpleX, Session, Briar & Element-Matrix, but the first 3 do not have a web version and the latest only has a free version for self-hosting and I haven’t looked into self-hosting yet.

I’d completely understand if what I’m looking for doesn’t exist for free, but if anyone has a suggestion here, I’m interested!

Cheers

    • Lemongrab
      2·
      3 months ago

      It is federated, just with other Matrix protocol servers. Just like how email is federated.

      • toastal@lemmy.mlEnglish
        2·
        3 months ago

        Being federated isn’t the same as living in the same Fediverse. You can upvote a Lemmy post from Mastodon since they both use ActivityPub but you can’t do that with a Matrix account. There are a couple of different ActivityPub-like generalized protocols out there, but none of them are near the size of ActivityPub & Lemmy is ActivityPub so for all intents & purposes for this conversation the Fediverse here (& most places) is ActivityPub. Matrix is on an entirely different federated network & they aren’t related.

        • Vinny_93@lemmy.world
          1·
          3 months ago

          I think I need to read up on the fediverse a bit more. Technically it looks like anything in the fediverse at the moment is ActivityPub, even though it supports 3 more protocols. At this point, only Hubzilla uses something other than ActivityPub, even though it also makes use of AP. I was confused because Matrix is also an open protocol and also federated. I had figured everything federated could talk to each other underneath… That’d be the dream, right?

          • toastal@lemmy.ml
            2·
            3 months ago

            I mean we already had the universal protocol last decade in an extensible markup language, but the next generation decided we needed to rewrite everything in a JSON schema that isn’t as easy to extend as XMPP. It’s federated/decentralized, has many chat clients, some social media + community managing platforms (Movim & Libervia), used for video conferencing (Jitsi & Zoom), negotiation matchmaking for games (most of them), displaying friend roster status updates (Nintendo, & many other systems). This would have (& can still be) the dream instead of needing to reinvent everything.

            Worth reading: https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html

        • Lemongrab
          1·
          3 months ago

          I do agree that generally when we refer to the fediverse, we mean ActivityPub federation. I also just wanted to point out that ActivityPub is not synonymous with fediverse.

      • toastal@lemmy.mlEnglish
        1·
        3 months ago

        OAuth or SSO is not the same as communicating over the same protocol. You can also log in with Google, Facebook, Apple, GitLab, Microsoft GitHub, & others on different platforms as SSO options… clearly these are not the Fediverse.