• tellah@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    No reasonable person will ever be convinced by this unhinged wall of text that tries to equivocate between European colonialism in North America over the past 400 years, and Russian imperialism happening literally right now.

    Insane whataboutism - but in any case, it doesn’t change the fact that what the Moscow regime is doing is wrong.

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      2 months ago

      the civilisation of diego garcia people (or how the islands are named by them and how they name themselves) are forced away from their homeland ‘right now’, not only in the past.

      hawaiian country is destroyed ‘right now’ by their invaders military, not only in the past.

      not to mention how ‘law enforcement’ acts on people without that secure pale skin today in the us, which is happening ‘right now’, not only in the past and slavery is protected by us law ‘right now’, not only in the past.

      Can sioux people walk their rightful land right now freely and follow their religion? ay, no they can’t, some invadors don’t allow that but keep captured their land ‘right now’, not only in the past.

      it happens right now what you seem to want to see as some “history” things, so following your argumentation, the invasion of ukraine was in the past too (right? there are little changes nowadays and ukraine even got some land from russia, right?) so should we:?

      • not talk about it as the initial invasion already is history?
      • only talk about it cause its “the others” who do it?
      • ignore all wars and genocides supported by the west but claim other invaders do be the evil ones but the west to be the goodies despite all the warcrimes committed?
      • … (your ideas here to maxbe stop maybe ALL invaders) ?

      after how many years some evil act becomes “legalized by history” in your opinion? is it 20 years, 50years or 100years? you already complained about 400years to be too much, so plz tell me what you think is the time a land must be forcefully captured to ‘rightfully’ change ownership to the brutish invader? whatever number “the west” would say would be enough to legalize such past crimes, that would be exactly the number of years the west would in the same sentence tell russia to have to keep ukraine captive so that the status quo would be as legalized as in those countries or cities captured by the west already beeing said to be “historically legitimised” as the west seems to accept that as “rightful ownership” then. since the west seems to never give back once invaded land, it tells russia and israel to actually do the same and capture as much as they can now to “legally own”(style of “the west”) it in a few decades, while israel already invaded and captured land in the (i think) northwest, they are driven by the wests real-world-definition of their so called “rightful ownership” to invade other countries now, and not only in some future.

      maybe i didn’t write it for people like you (how could i know u?) but for others who might want to read whole thoughts instead of only cheap and short propaganda. The evil ones always want the masses to forget at least most of what they did and “short and incomplete” is the tool of propaganda.