• vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    4·
    2 months ago

    There’s not much point to a military alliance if they don’t have the stuff to military properly.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
      11·
      2 months ago

      The whole point is to make the vassals dependent on the US militarily which allows the US to control the politics of these countries.

      • vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        4·
        2 months ago

        I guess that’s why the US has been pestering us to spend more on defense all these years.

        But let’s not let reality get in the way of a nice conspiracy theory.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
          5·
          2 months ago

          If the US actually wanted you to spend on defense then you’d be spending. It’s that simple. Libs not being able to distinguish between what’s actually happening and what’s being said to them will never cease to be amazing.

          The reality is that Europe hasn’t been spending and the US has been fine with it. And in fact, when Trump started making noises about forcing Europe to spend, that’s when the hysteria started in the US.

          But let’s not let reality get in the way of nice liberal fantasies.

      • Skua@kbin.earth
        3·
        2 months ago

        That seems rather at odds with the opening paragraph of the article, which is explicitly saying NATO wants Canada to have better domestic production and planning

          • Skua@kbin.earth
            2·
            2 months ago

            If Canada were to increase domestic military production, how would that make it more dependent on the US in your view?

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
              7·
              2 months ago

              Canada is not exactly going to be breaking away from the US regardless how much military production it does. The countries that might get ideas of becoming independent are in Europe, and as long as Europe doesn’t have a serious military industry of its own it will stay dependent on NATO which is run by the US.

              • Skua@kbin.earth
                3·
                2 months ago

                If NATO was disbanded tomorrow, Canada would still have to work with the fact that its neighbour is a lot bigger than it. It seems to me that even if it cannot meaningfully escape American influence altogether, at least not for so long as America has as much power as it does, there are still always degrees of independence. So how is NATO wanting an increase in Canadian domestic military production a move to make Canada more dependent on the US? Or, if in your view it makes no difference whatsoever, how is this request relevant to it at all?

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
                  2·
                  2 months ago

                  That’s my whole point, Canada is already entirely dependent on the US. That can’t change because Canada has a far smaller population than the US or Russia. No other countries are in a position to threaten Canada. The point isn’t to make Canada more dependent on the US, the point is to keep Europe dependent on the US as I’ve already explained in the previous reply and you ignored.

                • stringere@sh.itjust.works
                  1·
                  2 months ago

                  Canada would still have to work with the fact that its neighbour is a lot bigger than it.

                  Canada occupies a total area of about 3,855,100 sq miles making it the second biggest nation in the world while the United States occupies an area of approximately 3,796,742 sq miles.