• 14th_cylon@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    You should be intelligent enough and convicted in your understanding of any point you argue strongly, that you will be able to identify an irrational or false argument.

    yeah, no.

    “identifying irrational and false argument” takes time and we have only limited amount of it here on earth. also, once you have identified irrational and false argument, there is no need to do it over and over again. we are under no obligation to sort through a pile of crap just to show we are the better people (whatever that phrase means for anyone)

    and i say that as someone who was recently banned for “trolling” by some kid on a power trip to protect his cult from my arguments, so i should have understanding for your line of reasoning, but i don’t.

    as always in life, it is a matter of degree and it can be relative (which is the phrase that irself can be used to excuse almost anything, 😂)

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      Wait, because your time is limited on earth, you shouldn’t learn how to identify bad actors? I think it’s a pretty basic and vital skill. Am i misunderstanding you. Are you saying we should all be gullible fools and rely on some unknown force to sheild us from bad arguments?

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        you shouldn’t learn how to identify bad actors?

        bad actor is not the same as bad argument. once you know someone is bad actor, you can just ignore them or kick them out and you don’t have to bother with dissecting every single one of their sentences.

        for example, after reading multiple comments by you, mainly defending asshole’s right to bother others because what if they had some brilliant thought one day, i have come to conclusion that i don’t want to waste any more time on your bad trolling and i am perfectly fine risking that i will miss some brilliant thought by you. welcome to my blocklist.

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          I know you won’t see this, but for the benefit of the tiny chance that there is someone interested in reading this, you are a perfect example of what i am describing. You didn’t like what i was saying, you wouldnt entertain the idea that i might have a point, and so you decided i am a troll and blocked me.

          Im not saying that you would have ever gained some pearl of wisdom from me. Im not some philosophical genius or anything even close to it. But by blocking me (and likely anyone who disagrees with you) instead of engaging in the discussion, you are cutting yourself off from criticism of your beliefs. Beliefs that may be wrong.

          So, in your world, eventually, you are surrounded by yes men who will never disagree with you, and you will become deluded into thinking you are always right.

          Which is exactly what those maga nutjobs do.

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          you can just ignore them or kick them out

          Blocking doesn’t do this at all lol. It’s just ceding the floor to someone.