Since I left Opera when it went Chromium around 2005, I was a very happy firefox user.

The new update added a button ‘List all tabs’ on my toolbar, that I cant remove without some css magic. I tried, and tried to get use to it. I cant. It distract me all the time, I have no use for it. And I dont have the patience to do the css editing needed to hide it. Plus, this is the second time I cannot easily customize FF (first time was when they forced some round edge Tab for no reason and no easy rollback), so I suppose the browser is toast for me.

For PC. What do you recommend for a change?

I recall at a time using some browser build on Firefox , “BlueFox” (ed:WaterFox) or something like that. Are those still operational? I just need a my speedial customisable And all the menu button to be removed/added. And firefox addon: uBlock, Yesscript, Cookie autodelete … Dont care for speed, or whatever.

On a side note: WTF with those browser deciding what we want? They can allow us to customize any layout, so why force some fucking button I never asked for? I dont see the endgame

  • Ephera@lemmy.mlEnglish
    15·
    2 months ago

    Well, in case you want the CSS to hide it, it’s this:

    #alltabs-button {
	display: none !important;
}
    • ooli@lemmy.worldOP
      5·
      2 months ago

      Thanks. But seems that something they could allow to remove from toolbar, like every other button. The choice to not let the user do that, sound like bad news. That the main reason for the change… it feel their User can customize everything model is fading away

      • Ephera@lemmy.ml
        8·
        2 months ago

        They introduced that button when they introduced the ability for extensions to hide tabs. Without this button, an extension could open a webpage to cryptomine on your PC and then hide the tab, leaving you no way to see or close that webpage.

        Yes, if you’re a power user, you’ll prefer the ability to shoot yourself in the foot over this minimum of protection. But if you’re slightly more of a power user, then CSS is there for you.

        Given that they introduced this uncustomizable button to allow for more customization, I really do not think it should be taken as evidence of them limiting customization…

        • ooli@lemmy.worldOP
          4·
          2 months ago

          I browsing the Mozilla forum right now. Seems they already had an arrow pointing downward doing the same job, but more discret. Plus you could hide it with about:config. Seems a lot of people are unhappy with the new uncustomizable button. I think I should apply the Hanlon razor, and assume the new button is just here out of stupidity. And it will be rolled back soon, or be less intrusive, and be removable

          • Ephera@lemmy.ml
            2·
            2 months ago

            I could imagine them combining it with Firefox View. That kind of does a similar thing now. I’m just not sure, if they’ve noticed this. Presumably two different teams worked on these independently.

            Of course, that might mean that they want to make Firefox View less easily removable, which would piss a whole lot of people off… 🫠