• TAYRN@lemmy.world
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      No, and I never said that I did. Do I think that people are motivated to be educated and create things by capitalism? Yes, of course. It’s provably happened on both of our lifetimes.

      Does that make capitalism the best solution? No. But obviously you’re gonna need to provide more data against it to convince other people. This is a weak argument.

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        Do I think that people are motivated to be educated and create things by capitalism?

        People were motivated to be educated and create things long before capitalism and will be long after capitalism.

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          Yes, I think I’ve already agreed to that fact. Which brings us back to: how should we pay for those people to be educated? Who should we choose to create things? What should we do with everybody else?

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            how should we pay for those people to be educated?

            We don’t have to “pay” to be educated outside of the capitalist system. “Paying” for education is a capitalist thing. In fact, most places outside of the US don’t expect people to pay to be educated. Even within capitalism, various people have found ways to make education and healthcare a public service. Imagine that…

            Who should we choose to create things?

            People who want to choose it themselves?

            What should we do with everybody else?

            “We” don’t “do” anything with other people.

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              Well, no. Paying professors isn’t free. Some places just hide their salaries in their tax money. But sure. Everyone gets education (I agree with this). Some people choose to be artists and… I guess they just fend for themselves?

              Now, let’s be absurd. Pretend I’M a artist. I made a blank canvas, and I’m willing to sell it.

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                They laugh at your notion of money but you do you bro, they invite you home to share some of the excess of food that has been harvested by the people that had an honest desire to feed their fellow humans, instead of… getting power through making art?