But KDE never will be exculsively available as snaps. Again, you can just install Flatpak and get them from there. Or get Debian and stick to .deb, it’s largely the same base as Ubuntu anyway.
@PureTryOut@cyborganism just found out, that it was a good decision to move to debian.
Already hated it that I regularily lost my firefox profile because of this snap stuff…
Absolutely. I can get around some Snaps right now with Kubuntu 24.04 but I don’t know how long I’ll be able to with the next versions.
I regret not installing Debian, which was my 2nd choice. I’ve just been a loyal *Ubuntu user for 20 years so I thought I’d give it one last chance and because I’ve gotten pretty comfortable with it.
Next time I’ll install Debian testing as a rolling distro. I think it’s stable enough and even more stable than most Arch flavors or even OpenSuse Tumbleweed. With a solid snapshot strategy it should be safe enough.
KDE won’t provide them exclusively as Snaps. But *Ubuntu might. It seems to be the aim with Kubuntu from what I understand. (Correct me if I’m mistaken.)
Canonical might only care about Snaps, but like I keep saying you can just enable Flatpak and get it from there. Only if you want debs you’ll have to move away.
The point is that sometimes the sandboxing can break certain features in certain software. And if the software is only available as a snap or even flatpak, but not the original deb or rpm, then you’re stuck with a broken software.
This was the case, for example, for my browsers and some of their extensions that need to communicate with external tools like media downloaders or even password vault access, like keepass.
@cyborganism@PureTryOut that’s true. I use a lot of web apps so when I tried vanilla os, it used to sandbox every app and since web apps originate from a browser, many problems occurred.
@PureTryOut@cyborganism snaps, if given to a good linux person can make it the linux world’s greatest good repository ever due to large collection of apps but in today’s condition, flatpak is 10x better than snap.
But KDE never will be exculsively available as snaps. Again, you can just install Flatpak and get them from there. Or get Debian and stick to .deb, it’s largely the same base as Ubuntu anyway.
@PureTryOut @cyborganism just found out, that it was a good decision to move to debian.
Already hated it that I regularily lost my firefox profile because of this snap stuff…
Absolutely. I can get around some Snaps right now with Kubuntu 24.04 but I don’t know how long I’ll be able to with the next versions.
I regret not installing Debian, which was my 2nd choice. I’ve just been a loyal *Ubuntu user for 20 years so I thought I’d give it one last chance and because I’ve gotten pretty comfortable with it.
Next time I’ll install Debian testing as a rolling distro. I think it’s stable enough and even more stable than most Arch flavors or even OpenSuse Tumbleweed. With a solid snapshot strategy it should be safe enough.
@cyborganism Same. Also sticked long to Kubuntu.
However, they lost me.
Tried Debian testing. But wasnt really stable. Lost some packages during update. So switched to stable and I’m fine with it.
There’s not that much software I need in latest version.
KDE won’t provide them exclusively as Snaps. But *Ubuntu might. It seems to be the aim with Kubuntu from what I understand. (Correct me if I’m mistaken.)
Canonical might only care about Snaps, but like I keep saying you can just enable Flatpak and get it from there. Only if you want debs you’ll have to move away.
That’s not the point.
The point is that sometimes the sandboxing can break certain features in certain software. And if the software is only available as a snap or even flatpak, but not the original deb or rpm, then you’re stuck with a broken software.
This was the case, for example, for my browsers and some of their extensions that need to communicate with external tools like media downloaders or even password vault access, like keepass.
@cyborganism @PureTryOut that’s true. I use a lot of web apps so when I tried vanilla os, it used to sandbox every app and since web apps originate from a browser, many problems occurred.
@PureTryOut @cyborganism snaps, if given to a good linux person can make it the linux world’s greatest good repository ever due to large collection of apps but in today’s condition, flatpak is 10x better than snap.