@possiblylinux127@griefstricken I was working on bringing up a lemmy instance here, but after seeing the typical lemmy users I think I shall abandon the project.
Still worth while to do so, the trick is you need to defederate problematic instances. Not hide them, fully defederate. That stops problematic instances and communties from affecting your userbase. There’s many great Lemmy servers and communties out there. Just because a few of them aren’t great doesn’t mean you should dismiss all of them.
I encourage you guys fully defederating the Redditor based instances from the people who actually care about the integrity of open source projects. Get lost creeps! You haven’t made a single argument in this thread other than “all Russians are spies” and “all dissenters are Russian spied”. Useless idiots!
I haven’t made any arguments in this thread, you are putting words in my mouth, and not really helping your credibility. All I said is that the person should defederate Lemmy instances and communities which go against the mission of their instance. Something that almost all instance operators would likely agree on.
Just for the record though, I don’t believe people should be kicked out of a project based on their nationality, that seems incredibly xenophobic. I don’t know where you got that idea that I said any of those things from.
You’re encouraging someone who wants to block “problematic instances” in this case people voicing opposition to that xenophobia, to host lemmy (an open source project where most instances have large linux communities), and taking them seriously on their concern trolling in the first place. It does send a bit of an unusual message.
Anyways I stand by it, that person should fuck off back to reddit.
@griefstricken@Draconic_NEO I’ve seen more trolling from lemmy hosts than anything else here recently. I was going to add a lemmy site to my social media sites but this has convinced me that perhaps now is not the time. This time last year mastodon was a big problem but it has settled down, perhaps lemmy will in the future.
Misskey forks and Mastodon all have a file drive to manage things, thread watching, one-click access to LibreTranslate without browser extensions (good for libraries and school). Lemmy is really only good for the insane blood bowl of comments sections - and I literally have to use SearxNG lemmy comments plugin to sift through it because federation is so annoying. Though I am being harsh maybe. Eh honestly it’s workable if you babysit every aspect of federation but it was never worth it to me. A.gup.pe is pretty much the best way to bridge Lemmy with Mastodon/Misskey/Friendica forks.
Let’s be for real though, Mastodon’s ecosystem is horrible. They all support mindless aggression against Russia and “Israel’s right to exist” where Palestinians used to live side by side even with Zionists. The few people who stand up even for international law, which is based in US oriented institutions, are constantly lambasted, to the point even mild radical liberals like that German “immibis” guy are driven to their own instances.
FediMap shows why. Until server hosting is less concentrated in NATO countries you can expect more heavy handed neoconservative moderation. At least there are cool Brazilians.
Literally just use a Misskey fork, Funkwhale, and Peertube.
@griefstricken Yea I don’t think where the servers are hosted is the issue, if it were I’d be seeing this same traffic on my other social media sites and from other than lemmy servers here. Well there are about there other non-lemmy sites that are problematic but in a different way, lot of racist comments from a handful.
Lemmy needs way better management of uploads than a randomly created URL floating in the void. If you accidentally paste a picture of your face or dick it is just stuck there and you have to beg an admin to help. You don’t even have to hit post.
Oh yeah I skipped over the Nazi microblog instances because they are pretty isolated and infighty. It’s the full throated imperialists who ban anyone who talks about the genocide like anyone is responsible for it but the Palestinians.
They do actually often use EU laws to back up their censorship. They of course would never consider other hosting options. They are proud of the EU for some reason.
But whatever if that’s what people decide “Mastodon” is going to be like there is a lot more to be done with ActivityPub services other than link it to your chosen flavor of microblogging, and it certainly doesn’t need to have the sheen of Eugene Rotchko on it haha
Good, Lemmy is not very well-made software. I won’t belabor it, but you are dodging a bullet. It’s methadone for reddit. You can see the junkies fiending in this very thread.
@griefstricken I see useful things happen on Reddit, can’t say I’ve seen a parallel in Lemmy so far. And I’m not sure I can get it to run in the configuration I want to, which is to say having it NOT on the same machine as the web server proxy or database.
@possiblylinux127 @griefstricken I was working on bringing up a lemmy instance here, but after seeing the typical lemmy users I think I shall abandon the project.
Still worth while to do so, the trick is you need to defederate problematic instances. Not hide them, fully defederate. That stops problematic instances and communties from affecting your userbase. There’s many great Lemmy servers and communties out there. Just because a few of them aren’t great doesn’t mean you should dismiss all of them.
I encourage you guys fully defederating the Redditor based instances from the people who actually care about the integrity of open source projects. Get lost creeps! You haven’t made a single argument in this thread other than “all Russians are spies” and “all dissenters are Russian spied”. Useless idiots!
I haven’t made any arguments in this thread, you are putting words in my mouth, and not really helping your credibility. All I said is that the person should defederate Lemmy instances and communities which go against the mission of their instance. Something that almost all instance operators would likely agree on.
Just for the record though, I don’t believe people should be kicked out of a project based on their nationality, that seems incredibly xenophobic. I don’t know where you got that idea that I said any of those things from.
You’re encouraging someone who wants to block “problematic instances” in this case people voicing opposition to that xenophobia, to host lemmy (an open source project where most instances have large linux communities), and taking them seriously on their concern trolling in the first place. It does send a bit of an unusual message.
Anyways I stand by it, that person should fuck off back to reddit.
@griefstricken @Draconic_NEO I’ve seen more trolling from lemmy hosts than anything else here recently. I was going to add a lemmy site to my social media sites but this has convinced me that perhaps now is not the time. This time last year mastodon was a big problem but it has settled down, perhaps lemmy will in the future.
Misskey forks and Mastodon all have a file drive to manage things, thread watching, one-click access to LibreTranslate without browser extensions (good for libraries and school). Lemmy is really only good for the insane blood bowl of comments sections - and I literally have to use SearxNG lemmy comments plugin to sift through it because federation is so annoying. Though I am being harsh maybe. Eh honestly it’s workable if you babysit every aspect of federation but it was never worth it to me. A.gup.pe is pretty much the best way to bridge Lemmy with Mastodon/Misskey/Friendica forks.
Let’s be for real though, Mastodon’s ecosystem is horrible. They all support mindless aggression against Russia and “Israel’s right to exist” where Palestinians used to live side by side even with Zionists. The few people who stand up even for international law, which is based in US oriented institutions, are constantly lambasted, to the point even mild radical liberals like that German “immibis” guy are driven to their own instances.
FediMap shows why. Until server hosting is less concentrated in NATO countries you can expect more heavy handed neoconservative moderation. At least there are cool Brazilians.
Literally just use a Misskey fork, Funkwhale, and Peertube.
@griefstricken Yea I don’t think where the servers are hosted is the issue, if it were I’d be seeing this same traffic on my other social media sites and from other than lemmy servers here. Well there are about there other non-lemmy sites that are problematic but in a different way, lot of racist comments from a handful.
Lemmy needs way better management of uploads than a randomly created URL floating in the void. If you accidentally paste a picture of your face or dick it is just stuck there and you have to beg an admin to help. You don’t even have to hit post.
Oh yeah I skipped over the Nazi microblog instances because they are pretty isolated and infighty. It’s the full throated imperialists who ban anyone who talks about the genocide like anyone is responsible for it but the Palestinians.
They do actually often use EU laws to back up their censorship. They of course would never consider other hosting options. They are proud of the EU for some reason.
But whatever if that’s what people decide “Mastodon” is going to be like there is a lot more to be done with ActivityPub services other than link it to your chosen flavor of microblogging, and it certainly doesn’t need to have the sheen of Eugene Rotchko on it haha
Good, Lemmy is not very well-made software. I won’t belabor it, but you are dodging a bullet. It’s methadone for reddit. You can see the junkies fiending in this very thread.
@griefstricken I see useful things happen on Reddit, can’t say I’ve seen a parallel in Lemmy so far. And I’m not sure I can get it to run in the configuration I want to, which is to say having it NOT on the same machine as the web server proxy or database.
Take it to the dev/host chat buddy I can’t help you
No, you are wrong!
Deleted I missed who this replied to lol