Replaceable battery means extra plastic,extra size, and reduced design parameters because the design has to be around the battery and it’s ability to be replaced using connectors. Look at what blackberry devices looked like. Battery and OS tech got a little better, but they used the same batteries for a long amount of time. I’m not saying that we’ll have blackberry devices again, I’m saying that things like connectors, latches, and the extra size of a battery that’s designed to be held all adds up to extra space being used.
My usage is probably above average. Probably closer to your average fediverse/redditor. I’m far from a “light user”.
That being said, your average user doesn’t burn through batteries like you do. Maybe you should be pressuring the market to build your phone instead of forcing everyone that has no need for a replaceable battery to put up with the deficiencies of that form factor?
I guess what I’m getting at is that there are two valid opinions on this matter. On one side, people want to replace batteries, on the other, people don’t care about the battery.
The government is stepping in on the issue for some reason. This irks me. If there was a market for it, it would exist.
This isn’t about a monopoly or even a significant environmental impact like aerosol spray in the 80s, or leaded gas of the 70’s. Right to repair? Yeah I agree. Specific charge port? Hmm, I understand the argument but politicians shouldn’t decide it. Required replaceable batteries? Hold up, aren’t their bigger issues that need to be addressed?
And yeah your dad remembers when his phone would last two weeks on the dash of his truck that he parked it the sun every day. Those were different times, and he should know those phones still exist if he really wants it, but no one does.
You keep talking about the market as if consumers get a vote in what Apple or Samsung build next year and not the other way around. If replaceable batteries weren’t desirable, they wouldn’t have been standard for the first 33 years of existence of cellphones. It wasn’t until the last few years when the market got stagnant that manufacturers turned to cutting features left and right in order to cut costs and increase profit.
The only phones manufacturers offer with replaceable batteries are still using the same hardware that was around when replaceable batteries were still the norm. There was never a time were you could get a Note 8 with a replaceable battery or a Note 8 with a sealed case – a true choice that one could then use to make informed statements like “the market decided”. Saying the “market decided” when every major manufacturer removed them within a single generation leaving people with little to no alternative isn’t the market deciding, it’s manufacturers deciding.
Replaceable battery means extra plastic,extra size, and reduced design parameters because the design has to be around the battery and it’s ability to be replaced using connectors. Look at what blackberry devices looked like. Battery and OS tech got a little better, but they used the same batteries for a long amount of time. I’m not saying that we’ll have blackberry devices again, I’m saying that things like connectors, latches, and the extra size of a battery that’s designed to be held all adds up to extra space being used.
My usage is probably above average. Probably closer to your average fediverse/redditor. I’m far from a “light user”.
That being said, your average user doesn’t burn through batteries like you do. Maybe you should be pressuring the market to build your phone instead of forcing everyone that has no need for a replaceable battery to put up with the deficiencies of that form factor?
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I guess what I’m getting at is that there are two valid opinions on this matter. On one side, people want to replace batteries, on the other, people don’t care about the battery.
The government is stepping in on the issue for some reason. This irks me. If there was a market for it, it would exist.
This isn’t about a monopoly or even a significant environmental impact like aerosol spray in the 80s, or leaded gas of the 70’s. Right to repair? Yeah I agree. Specific charge port? Hmm, I understand the argument but politicians shouldn’t decide it. Required replaceable batteries? Hold up, aren’t their bigger issues that need to be addressed?
And yeah your dad remembers when his phone would last two weeks on the dash of his truck that he parked it the sun every day. Those were different times, and he should know those phones still exist if he really wants it, but no one does.
You keep talking about the market as if consumers get a vote in what Apple or Samsung build next year and not the other way around. If replaceable batteries weren’t desirable, they wouldn’t have been standard for the first 33 years of existence of cellphones. It wasn’t until the last few years when the market got stagnant that manufacturers turned to cutting features left and right in order to cut costs and increase profit.
The only phones manufacturers offer with replaceable batteries are still using the same hardware that was around when replaceable batteries were still the norm. There was never a time were you could get a Note 8 with a replaceable battery or a Note 8 with a sealed case – a true choice that one could then use to make informed statements like “the market decided”. Saying the “market decided” when every major manufacturer removed them within a single generation leaving people with little to no alternative isn’t the market deciding, it’s manufacturers deciding.
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