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      Wait… they’re militant enough about Free Software to refuse to package anything even slightly non-Free, but their “final goal” is to switch the kernel to BSD (i.e. away from copyleft)? WTF?

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        but their “final goal” is to switch the kernel to BSD (i.e. away from copyleft)?

        HyperbolaBSD is a hard fork, that relicenses the OpenBSD kernel as GPL (as permitted by permissive licenses.)

        HyperbolaBSD has already dug into the OpenBSD source tree and discovered numerous licensing issues.

        https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/~team/documentation/todo.git/tree/openbsd_kernel-file-list-with-license-issues.md

        HyperbolaBSD will be a truly libre distro that takes advantage of copyleft, while moving away from the major issues Linux is stepping into too.

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          Ah, that’s different then!

          Hmm…

          From https://wiki.hyperbola.info/doku.php?id=en:manual:contrib:hyperbolabsd_faq:

          HyperbolaBSD is under a progressive migration by replacing all non GPL-compatible code. It will be replaced with new compatible code under Simplified BSD License. We do this in order to incorporate GPL code from other projects such as ReactOS, as well new code from scratch.

          It’s not clear to me that relicensing the existing code to GPL is what they’re planning on doing; it sounds more like they’re going to mix in GPL code but not change the existing files to GPL en masse after they finish harmonizing them to two-clause BSD.

          Frankly, IMO that’s too bad: I’d love to see them make the whole shebang GPLv3-or-later


          Related question: is all Linux kernel code required to be licensed GPLv2-only, or are individual contributions allowed to be GPLv2-or-later? I’d be nice to see if that project (and stuff like HURD and ReactOS) could benefit from at least some Linux contributions, even if they can’t copy it wholesale.

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        It’s an ancient divide in parts of the FOSS community that believes copyleft licenses are not “free” because they force you to license contributions under the same license.

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          Yeah, I know, but I would’ve expected a distro that describes itself as “GNU/Linux-libre” would fall on the other side of it!

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          No one thinks this. Even permissively licensed BSD operating systems package GPL software and accept it as Free Software.

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      Certain things? Fucking luddite idiots don’t package 99.9% of software.

      AIX Unix from the 1980s is literally more useful than that heap of garbage

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        Why so much rage?

        Yes, Hyperbola is very ideological and super strict, but it was always meant to be that way - to provide a system that works in some way and at the same time is as ethical and “clean” as possible. Some people value it over anything, and for them, Hyperbola is a good pick.

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      was that translated into english from another language?

      I love how they blended FAQ with meth-induced psychosis rambling.

      I’ve gotta give them kudos for sticking to their very strict values, but holy hell is this hard to parse