Trans men are men.

  • Feathercrown@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    edit-2
    3 days ago

    In the way “man” is being used here, it’s not your body that would make you a man, but your gender identity. For most people, those are intuitively the same thing, but that only makes it more important to be clear about the terms being used here.

      • Feathercrown@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        2 days ago

        Listen, if you want to question the terms or concepts being used here then go for it, but please don’t barrel into the discussion and obstinately refuse to use the same definitions as everyone else while intentionally not making that clear just so that you can try to own people. We all see through it and it’s obnoxious and only serves to erode the quality of discussion.

        • Mango@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          2 days ago

          don’t barrel into the discussion and obstinately refuse to use the same definitions as everyone else while intentionally not making that clear just so that you can try to own people.

          Well if that’s the proper way to do things, I’m gonna need you all to stop obstinately refusing to use the words “man” and “woman” the same way as everyone else while intentionally not making that clear for whatever reason you have. It really IS rude to hijack already existing language to change the conventions everyone else is already using. I would also like people to stop acting like feminism is egalitarianism when the label is clearly gendered.

          If you wanna question what it is to be a man or a woman, then go for it, but have some definition ready before asserting what’s what in the face of thousands of years of precedent.