This is a vegan group, we shouldn’t bend over backwards in our space to nonvegans when they dominate everywhere else using language that normalizes violence towards the animals, we have higher standards here.
And that is exactly my point right here. The belief that animal violence is normalized with people who eat meat and that people who disagree with you have no standards. You say stuff like that and then think that you and your way of thinking should be respected. That’s a bad faith argument is it not?. Plus the general mentality that I’ve observed is that even not in your own community, the belief is your way if thinking is infallible
When you’re talking about “bad arguments” it’s ironic you’re opening up with a strawman claiming that I said “people who eat meat have no standards” when I actually said they had lower standards.
Obviously you need to kill an animal to eat meat that in of itself is normalizing violence towards the animals.
I’m not very interested in appealing to the “respect” of those who harm others when they don’t need to. I can be as polite and to myself as possible but that doesn’t stop the carnists from wanting to mistreat me or debate me.
I never said you. You spoke generally, so i spoke generally. You assumed I was talking about you and took it personally. I haven’t mentioned anything about my personal beliefs on the matter.
This is a vegan group, we shouldn’t bend over backwards in our space to nonvegans when they dominate everywhere else using language that normalizes violence towards the animals, we have higher standards here.
And that is exactly my point right here. The belief that animal violence is normalized with people who eat meat and that people who disagree with you have no standards. You say stuff like that and then think that you and your way of thinking should be respected. That’s a bad faith argument is it not?. Plus the general mentality that I’ve observed is that even not in your own community, the belief is your way if thinking is infallible
When you’re talking about “bad arguments” it’s ironic you’re opening up with a strawman claiming that I said “people who eat meat have no standards” when I actually said they had lower standards.
Obviously you need to kill an animal to eat meat that in of itself is normalizing violence towards the animals.
I’m not very interested in appealing to the “respect” of those who harm others when they don’t need to. I can be as polite and to myself as possible but that doesn’t stop the carnists from wanting to mistreat me or debate me.
I never said you. You spoke generally, so i spoke generally. You assumed I was talking about you and took it personally. I haven’t mentioned anything about my personal beliefs on the matter.