It’s an accurate description based on what I learned while earning my degree in psychology.
Honestly most metrics in psychology aren’t useful individually. But Pop Psych doesn’t teach you that because then they couldn’t sell you on these online IQ tests that are completely invalid to begin with.
there is cultural inertia and systemic racial biases that encourage its use in psychology as well. we agree it’s not useful individually, but it’s also not useful for populations, as it doesnt measure the things it is regularly and pervasively used to represent. even moreso iq at a population level is absolutely rife with cultural and systemic biases that make it easy to mistest even for those very well informed and well intentioned. We simply dont have models of intelligence mature enough to do this sort of intelligence metricising. Just because someone can envision an experiment or useful pursuit doesn’t mean there are tools necessary to perform it adequately.
Thank you for expanding on your position. I’d say that’s a pretty accurate assessment with IQ and other psych tests from what I learned and saw in college/internships. Psychology is a soft science, and I didn’t like the idea of trying to gauge things like “intelligence” (What does that even really mean?) on a numbered scale. I was more of an abnormal/forensic psych student.
Probably for the best I ended up in networking - I’ve got shit people skills.
Yeah i have found that a lot of the frustrations about soft sciences come from my last point, well intentioned people trying to do experiments that we simply dont yet have the tools to perform as well as they need to be. interesting about the career path! i am not super closely familiar with the field so itEs always interesting to hear where people end up!
It’s an accurate description based on what I learned while earning my degree in psychology.
Honestly most metrics in psychology aren’t useful individually. But Pop Psych doesn’t teach you that because then they couldn’t sell you on these online IQ tests that are completely invalid to begin with.
there is cultural inertia and systemic racial biases that encourage its use in psychology as well. we agree it’s not useful individually, but it’s also not useful for populations, as it doesnt measure the things it is regularly and pervasively used to represent. even moreso iq at a population level is absolutely rife with cultural and systemic biases that make it easy to mistest even for those very well informed and well intentioned. We simply dont have models of intelligence mature enough to do this sort of intelligence metricising. Just because someone can envision an experiment or useful pursuit doesn’t mean there are tools necessary to perform it adequately.
Thank you for expanding on your position. I’d say that’s a pretty accurate assessment with IQ and other psych tests from what I learned and saw in college/internships. Psychology is a soft science, and I didn’t like the idea of trying to gauge things like “intelligence” (What does that even really mean?) on a numbered scale. I was more of an abnormal/forensic psych student.
Probably for the best I ended up in networking - I’ve got shit people skills.
Yeah i have found that a lot of the frustrations about soft sciences come from my last point, well intentioned people trying to do experiments that we simply dont yet have the tools to perform as well as they need to be. interesting about the career path! i am not super closely familiar with the field so itEs always interesting to hear where people end up!