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Yarr harr, tis incorrect sez me
Theft be taking somefing, I has it and you don’t
You savu?
Copying be making another thing from a thing
Excuse me sir may I borrow a tomato seed? I’ll give you one back in a few months, promise!
Not a good analogy, you are still depriving them of a seed for a period of time. Something more accurate would be “Excuse me sir, may I take pictures of your successful tomato grow op so I can do the same thing at home in my own grow to feed my family.”
Yeah but in this case you still keep your seed, but now I also have that seed… MAGIC!
Sounds like you need a seed bank.
PepsiCo is already on it back in 2019 Here
Let’s say we live in a world where anyone is allowed to copy anything without issue or cost. Patents are now meaningless because people can copy an invention and make their own version, so there’s no incentive for anyone do the entrepreneur thing or invent new devices. There’s no reason for musicians to record anything other than maybe to drum up interest in their tours. No reason for digital artists to put things online. No writer is going to allow their work to be published as an ebook. Etc.
The costs to make things don’t change and the profit targets don’t change, so the people who do this are just causing higher prices for the prior who don’t, in exactly the same way as stores raise their prices to cover the costs of shoplifting.
Holy assumptions, batman!
What assumptions do you disagree with?
The one where artists create art for financial gain.
That’s fucking hilarious. I don’t know how uncreative and unartistic you must be to hold such a view, but… “The starving artist” isn’t on a hunger strike. They’re dirt poor.
This key ideological crux of your argument leads me to believe you are so disconnected from creating art that I cannot bother myself to engage in a discussion with you about the nuances of intellectual property and if it even should exist at all. You’re just blowing hot air around, and I’m not here for it. Neither is anyone else, it seems. So, cheers. I’m sure you’ll say something, and I’m sure it will further illustrate your disconnection to this argument, so I probably won’t respond.
Way to blow off an opinion your disagree with by making incorrect assumptions. I actually grew up around artists and musicians and am close friends now with a cartoon illustrator and a professional musician.
So now do you want to tell me why my opinion is wrong?
lol ok
Your opinion is very, very wrong.
How can I argue with such a well articulate position?
Again, lots of rationalizations for taking stuff without paying. Can I ask you what you do for a living and if you think whatever product or service it is should be provided by you for free?
For a living, I mostly write software and do research in mathematics, and yes it should be free. I don’t necessarily say that there should not be an option to pay for using it for business purposes, but in my opinion it should always be possible to easily and legally get it for personal use. I cannot share the code directly due to NDA’s, but it still should be public and accessible for any physical persons.
And an important thing I forgot to mention: you assume that piracy is some invisible force that makes customers not buy the product and inflicts purely theoretical losses to the company, while in reality the vast majority of pirates would not buy the product anyways, and some (like me) have bought hundreds of e.g. games, just because they liked the pirates version. Some studies have shown that piracy has a positive net influence on the number of sold copies. Saying that piracy loses sales is just a stupid rhetoric used by greedy callous companies to raise prices even more, though the product does not change.
So you don’t collect a salary for the work you do?
I do, but do note that all public research is funded somehow, though importantly it is public, so free to access. This is my idea of how all research should be conducted.
I agree, public research is usually funded by government grants, which means paid for by our taxes, and so it’s for public benefit. That’s a pretty special case, and only applies to a tiny percentage of jobs.
Most people make ends meet by working a job that ultimately is funded by the sale of a product or service.
I don’t know that I’ve ever seen that definition of theft. Hell, we call it “stolen valor” when someone purports to have served in the military when they haven’t. It’s" identity theft" if you pass yourself off as me, even though I’m still me. I think this is yet another rationalization for taking something that doesn’t belong to you without paying.