Signature /= footer

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    • fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de
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      1 day ago

      I think that’s kind of reductive honestly.

      Like most people I try not to be an ass, and generally try to get through the day without offending anyone.

      If I know someone well enough to care about their gender obviously I’d do my best not to misgender them.

      OTOH if I’m emailing customer support to ask where my order is I just couldn’t care less what the person’s gender is.

      • apotheotic (she/her)@beehaw.org
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        16 hours ago

        A persons right to identity is not dependant on how much you care about the interaction, or any other factor. Say you have to escalate the customer support ticket, and you want to say “your colleague X was helping me. He said X was not possible blah blah” this is easier if those pronouns have been visible to you, you don’t have to make an assumption or default to gender neutral pronouns which may not be appropriate depending on the individual.

        • fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de
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          13 hours ago

          I’m not imposing of anyones right to identity and frankly to suggest otherwise in any professional context would just be silly.

          Like a great many people I send and receive emails all day, corresponding with people from all sorts of organisations.

          An infinitesimal portion of people include pronouns in footers, and I suspect the people who do are cisgender with vanilla pronouns.

          I get that I’m the only one here being blunt about it, and I’m happy to take the downvotes, but honestly how does anyone navigate the day to day without imposing on people’s “right to identity” if no one is announcing their pronouns in their email footers?

          The obvious answer is, very few people care very much about this.

          • apotheotic (she/her)@beehaw.org
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            7 hours ago

            Why would you assume that the people who have their pronouns on display are cisgender? That’s baffling

            Trans people, like myself, put their pronouns on display so that they can avoid being misgendered in the exact way I’ve described to you.

            The only cis people, I’d imagine, who bother to do the same are people who are doing it in allyship with trans folk.

            Very few people care very much about this

            Sure, okay, yeah. And the people who do care, put their pronouns there for you to respect.

            Quite frankly, if an infinitesimal set of your emails even include pronouns in the footer to begin with, why is it such a bugbear for you?