cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/26489182

Instead of leaving Xitter, they left Mastodon. Proton’s trend is not inspiring confidence and this feels like another step backwards.

  • all4theTomatoes@lemm.eeEnglish
    19·
    1 day ago

    Hate to break it to you, but “swiss security laws” don’t mean jack if your outside of Switzerland. In 2022, ProtonMail Complied with 5,957 Data Requests from the FBI. See here.

    As a Swiss national, please don’t blindly believe you’re immune because it’s Swiss and that the Swiss law has got you covered. Swiss companies are just as shady as American ones.

    • asap@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      1 day ago

      That statistic isn’t particularly useful. They complied with requests, but their response might have been “We don’t know anything.”

      The only thing they can provide in regards to email is an IP address, which can be circumvented by using the VPN, which doesn’t log IP addresses. You obviously shouldn’t have a recovery email on your account, so they can’t provide that.

      In my case, I couldn’t care less if they provided my IP address. I’m not doing anything illegal, I just prefer my email to be stored encrypted so server admins can’t read it.

    • Valmond@lemmy.world
      1·
      1 day ago

      Thanks for the info, but what’s the alternative? Sweden with their dubious stuff with pirate bay and wikileaks? Any other country?

      It sure is interesting though, and it sucks, but they doesn’t keep logs for what I have understood so there’s that for their VPN at least.

      Maybe there just is no real solution?

      • all4theTomatoes@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        1 day ago

        Alternatives to Proton? Maybe check out Tuta Mail and Mailbox(dot)org from Germany if you haven’t. Both freemium and privacy-friendly :)