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Listen I’m all in favor of this plan, but its really unconstiutional. Like we decided 250 years ago this was a bad idea.
Thats why the Articles of Confederation after the revolutionary war failed and we had to rewrite an entirely new constitution.
Yea, and having Trump as president now is unconstitutional, but that seems to be happening.
What do you mean? What part of Trump’s election was unconstitutional?
Those participating in or fomenting an insurrection are no longer constitutionally eligible to hold public office, period. Yet here we are.
For starters, the president of the United States once said that a convicted felon winning the election would be a constitutional crisis, and then he proceeded to do that.
So we’re listening to Trump’s opinions on the constitution now?
According to BBC:
The US Constitution sets out relatively few eligibility requirements for presidential candidates: they must be at least 35, be a “natural born” US citizen and have lived in the US for at least 14 years.
So despite what he thinks on the matter, electing a convicted felon appears to be constitutional.
God, what is wrong with you.
No, what’s wrong with YOU? The felon argument is a shit one. It’s important being a felon doesn’t bar you from running so shit bags like Trump can’t just make all their opposition into felons and pretend it’s legal.
It’s in the constitution. I suggest you read it sometime. You can’t make shit up like trump and expect to be right.
He’s also not capable of running if he legitimately believes he’s won two elections already.
14th Amendment to the Constitution, Section 3
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
The Constitution is now optional.
Those involved with insurrection are forbidden from holding office in the United States. The Emoluments clause has been ignored by the Supreme Court, and now that the felon’s back in office he’s again cashing in. People with Constitutional rights are being disappeared and sent to concentration camps in other countries. Russia tampered with our elections to put a wholly owned, useful idiot into power who literally puts tariffs on every other country except Russia. Millions of legal, registered voters are dumped from the voting rolls to assure the felon a victory. Court orders, no matter what they are, are simply ignored. Maga and Trump are openly planning for a 3rd term.
We’re already in a Constitutional crisis as we are pushed into fascism. IMO we can safely ignore the abusive, unconstitutional orders coming from the White House even if doing so is also unconstitutional.
I’m sure England and the Loyalists thought it was a bad idea and against the law for America to declare independence. What worked in the 1800s doesn’t necessarily work today. The union has outlived it’s usefulness.
The constitution means nothing if we successfully leave the country it is pertinent to, whether that leaving is peacefully or violently.
I agree. This dissolve the union stuff is just as ridiculous now as it was then, “a house divided” and all that.
Newsom is kinda a schmuck.
Def unconstitutional but maybe the first step for a Free California!
So brave, I said the same thing with factual historical context and got downvoted to hell.
What people seem to want to ignore is how Cali doing this will fuck Oregan, Washington, and every other blue state just as badly as it fucks Alabama. Thats why we stopped it and rewrote our constiution in the 1780s.
If the rest of the left coast didn’t follow CA I’d be amazed. Nevada is 50/50, and Idaho is definitely dumb enough to stay behind.
It’s useful being a massive economy on your own.
Newsom is directing his state to pursue “strategic” relationships with countries announcing retaliatory tariffs against the U.S., urging them to exclude California-made products from those taxes.
Not good enough. Like the 1828 tariffs, that forced South Carolina to buy overpriced shit from northern states, California needs to push for secession. California money where given to DNC or GOP was largely used to elect the most Israel first candidate. Other countries should not support/exempt California if it enables America in any way.
Understanding that tariffs are an attack on Americans, is a key understanding for not tolerating unity. Even if it protects some businesses, and might encourage investment in manufacturing overpriced stuff down the road, it is an overpricing and tax attack on all Americans, in order to benefit a select few protected group that may be far away from California.
Cars are a big deal with Chinese alternatives already having a big value advantage. Korean and Japanese and European EVs pretty decent. Steel and Aluminum tariffs alone make US manufacturing produce premium priced, without quality advantage, products. Auto tariffs mean not just another production cost increase, but a profit boost, from cartel competition relief.
What South Carolina did in 1828 was just say “we’re not paying any tariffs” attempt to get more port traffic, and alternate source of goods. The secessionist resentment was also fueled by England not buying as much cotton because they were selling fewer stuff from the empire. Seeds for hating the federal government in SC, lasted a generation and spread to other southern states.
Why do I feel this will end badly
