I’ve seen a good bit of debate on Kbin surrounding downvotes, so what are your thoughts? Should they exist? Should they be shown separately? Should you be able to see who downvoted?

I personally like downvotes and especially like that they’re shown separately. You’re able to get a much better idea of how people feel about something, and you can more easily express a minority opinion. Of course, there are downsides (e.g., brigades), but I think the pros outweigh the cons.

  • Squanchin' it
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    1 year ago

    I don’t love the idea of seeing everything anyone downvotes. It seems ripe for abuse if someone gets a little too salty.

    • ThatOneKirbyMain2568@kbin.socialOP
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      1 year ago

      I think there are benefits to being able to see downvotes. By looking at the posts & comments of someone who downvoted something, you can come up with an idea of why. Additionally, it can make people think more before handing out a downvote — if you know that people can check that it was you who downvoted, you’re more likely to consider whether you can actually justify your downvote.

      But of course, someone could go harassing people who downvote them (e.g., in DMs), and that possibility can make people less likely to downvote at all. I think that with a good block feature, harassment from downvotes won’t be that big an issue, but there’s definitely good reason to hide who downvoted something. I don’t strongly lean either way.

      (And as a side note, I really like being able to see who upvoted something as well. It’s just neat info to know tbh, especially in smaller communities.)

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        1 year ago

        Fair points, but I really don’t like that it’s also available to anyone who visits the site, signed in or not.

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      1 year ago

      I agree. And I have already seen it. People going to inspect the vote history on all their own comments, then complaining that another person is going around downvoting them. Because I am exceptionally nosy, on 2 occasions I actually went to check to see if it was true. In both cases it did seem to be the case although neither downvoter was really vigorous. Like half the commenter’s recent posts were downvoted by the same person.

      OTOH my understanding is that it is required in order for votes/boosts to propagate in federation. If there was a technical workaround that people felt confident in, I think it would be better hidden. For that % of people where it really just makes them crazy and they can’t resist checking.