cross-posted from: https://lemy.lol/post/43264971

In the aftermath of the deadly terrorist attack in Jammu & Kashmir’s Pahalgam, hatred against Kashmiris and Kashmiri students in particular surged in at least four northern states and Jammu, fuelled by right-wing groups. We spoke with Kashmiri students who had exams to write but had no institutional support. Hiding in their rooms, hoping for the worst to pass without violence, they spoke of mental and emotional trauma.

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      This video used 2008 Mumbai attacks footage to show militants (to use the neutral term, not out of any respect towards suicide bombing) attacking Indian authorities. Those weren’t military targets they were killing which you’re being shown. If you’ve been alive when it happened, all credibility goes out of the window when you remember just how horrific it was. It is also a very surface level analysis, and I am saying this as someone who is very critical of the Indian government’s crimes in Kashmir, which are many and horrifying, and of Israel’s very obvious genocide in Palestine.

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          Truthfully, you’re really fucking dumb if you think 26/11 was anything but that. Dumb at best. How old are you? I’m pretty sure international media covered it. Read. Even the Taliban is more defensible.

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      It recieves zero coverage outside anti-India coteries because there is zero evidence that holds up to scrutiny, despite billions of dollars being poured into international media to legitimise it.

      Most of the “evidence” you’ll find is from Pakistan funded or allied sources, and Pakistan is not a neutral actor in Kashmir.

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        The video cites all its sources. Get out of here with this Indian genocide denial BS.

        The Indian government is openly proclaiming they want to do genocide Israel style in Kashmir these days.

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          The Indian government is openly proclaiming they want to do genocide Israel style in Kashmir these days.

          Give the Indian Government source please.

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          You’re simply cheapening the word genocide by using it everywhere like this. Which government official called for an Israel like bombing in Kashmir? Do you even know India’s stand on Palestine?

          India historically has been staunchly pro Palestine. There was a stamp in 1980 in solidarity. Gandhi and Nehru were pro Palestine. India was one of the few countries that opposed the partition of Palestine and the formation of Israel in the UN.

          Right now, it has shifted to neutral in the right wing government. To say something so overtly pro Israel would be suicidal, considering its official non alignment stance. However, right wingers do have an affinity to Israel. That is disgusting, but they really aren’t anything more than influencers.

          You posted a silly, sensationalist article and didn’t even read it. The government didn’t proclaim anything other than suspension treaties with Pakistan.

          My local news channel has been focusing on the kindness and aid provided by Kashmiris who helped tourists after the attack and urging unity. Arnab Goswami is a warmongering clown. The article ignores the countless shows that were positive and focuses on only one show in the media. Every news channel I saw spoke about the one Kashmiri who was killed in the attack. Social media being awful is nothing new in India, we’ve all seen it. Most of my friends and family would be horrified at the notion of bombing Kashmir. These are the actions of a genocidal state? This is why western journalism about India is so shit. They don’t know anything on the ground.

          Maybe rely on local journalism that isn’t in the government’s pocket, like newslaundry? Left wing journalism survives in India. Don’t condescend to us. It’s not our fault that western sources barring some investigative journalism are absolutely clueless.

          There certainly was disturbing genocidal rhetoric in social media. This is not what a normal society does. But to claim that the central government is going to break every precedent and straight up bomb Kashmir is delusional.

          But then again you are defending the Taj Hotel attack so maybe this isn’t worth it.

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            I want to learn more about the region. Can you share the local news channels you mentioned and any other non biased sources.

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              There is no neutrality in occupation. You either condemn crimes or you don’t. I shall assume that the baseline is that the source must condemn heinous crimes. I will admit my own biases; I am pro-liberation, but not pro-terrorism, which differs from my stance on Palestine as Hamas never harmed Palestinians and is genuinely fighting a colonial entity.

              There is no understanding this conflict without history. A left-leaning Kashmiri historian had recommended Christopher Snedden’s books to me; I shall pass that along. He is quite sympathetic to independance. For the Pakistani involvement in the conflict, I’d recommend Manoj Joshi’s ‘Lost Rebellion.’ He is an Indian and worked for the government, so bias is inevitable, but he does condemn crimes in the region and has inside insights on the imperialism of both nations. It is a very balanced book. ‘Our Moon Has Blood Clots’ by Rahul Pandita is about the persecution and exodus of Kashmiri Hindus. There are other books but they must be read with a critical eye. I shall not recommend them as I think you aren’t looking for such a deep dive into the historiography of Kashmir.

              News sources are difficult. Foreign journalists are banned in the region since 2019, and the press is not free. Indian sources are almost useless without context since they’ll never have the guts to condemn the occupation even if the individual journalist knows better. Liberal media organisations that typically critique the government fearlessly, do not give opinions on Kashmir because breaking India is too far out of the overton window and will never gather public funding, on which these run.

              Free Press Kashmir is decent enough for a Kashmiri Muslim perspective. The Kashmir Walla was banned in India, it is also local. Newslaundry did some investigations into press freedom there as well. For human rights violations, JKCCS has some reports, in particular, ‘Torture’ was excellently sourced. It was also censored in India using DNS tampering (I think), seems unbanned now. It is quite harrowing though; do not read if you have a history of trauma.

              Edit: if you meant the local news channel I mentioned, I’m afraid you wouldn’t understand it, it was in Marathi.

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              Middle East “experts” could fantasize about anything, including flying donkeys. Doesn’t make them relevant.

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                  Funny how you ignored my comment, refused to read your own article, refused to reply or refute any of my points or even u/mukt’s with anything other than strawman insults. It is clear you aren’t engaging in good faith, and your understanding of India is very poor, as is evident by your replies.

                  Read monkey, read.

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                  In your vocabulary, a random person who looks Indian = Indian government.

                  And you really want to be taken seriously, for unknown reasons.

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                    Human rights groups and academics have documented the shared approaches of both countries military and police – such as punitive home demolitions, extrajudicial killings, and arbitrary detentions, employed by the Israeli state against Palestinians, and the Indian state against Kashmiris.

                    The use of these tactics has escalated following the revocation of Kashmir’s special status in 2019, where the Indian government launched a major crackdown on dissent, targeting journalists and civil society.

                    According to Kashmiri academic Hafsa Kanjwal, the Indian government’s 2019 decision - which enables Indians to purchase land in Indian-controlled Kashmir – paves the way for similar “settler-colonial projects” in India and Israel, forcing “demographic change”.

                    Zee News, a prominent Indian news network, described the Israeli ambassador Reuven Azar’s response as a statement from India’s “closest friend, Israel”.

                    Former director general of police of Jammu and Kashmir S.P Vaid said that “we must respond like Israel,” as reported by Hindi newspaper Jagran.

                    Human rights groups have documented the ways in which the Police of Jammu and Kashmir, run by India’s Ministry of Home Affairs, have led raids and interrogations against journalists, and maintained extrajudicial detentions of Kashmiris.