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Screenshot of a tumblr post by hbmmaster:

the framing of generative ai as “theft” in popular discourse has really set us back so far like not only should we not consider copyright infringement theft we shouldn’t even consider generative ai copyright infringement

who do you think benefits from redefining “theft” to include “making something indirectly derivative of something created by someone else”? because I can assure you it’s not artists

okay I’m going to mute this post, I’ll just say,

if your gut reaction to this is that you think this is a pro-ai post, that you think “not theft” means “not bad”, I want you to think very carefully about what exactly “theft” is to you and what it is about ai that you consider “stealing”.

do you also consider other derivative works to be “stealing”? (fanfiction, youtube poops, gifsets) if not, why not? what’s the difference? because if the difference is actually just “well it’s fine when a person does it” then you really should try to find a better way to articulate the problems you have with ai than just saying it’s “stealing from artists”.

I dislike ai too, I’m probably on your side. I just want people to stop shooting themselves in the foot by making anti-ai arguments that have broader anti-art implications. I believe in you. you can come up with a better argument than just calling it “theft”.

  • BussyGyatt@feddit.org
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    op’s complaint is that “ai is theft/copyright infringement” is a fundamentally different argument than “ai is energy-intensive/pollutive” and that if youre upset about the co2 then argue against the co2; if youre upset about copyright infrengement, why are other derivative works valid. it was in the op actually.

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      No, the problem is “my work is being used for something I don’t want, and didn’t agree too”. That could be pollution, it could be people who dislike vowels. Artists get a say in the use of their work, and AI bros break those laws.

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        okay if the problem is “the thing i made is being used in a way i dont like,” that’s still separate from theft/copyright infringement.