Agreed, but even with managed expectations it’s a balancing act. Both from the players and the DM. Everyone is trying to get something out of their experience at the table, and it needs to have give and take. Murderhoboing just seems like the most selfish thing a player can do. It takes away from everyone else involved. You destroy plot hooks from other players, derail the story from the DM, sabotage combat for the combat players, outright deny roleplay for the RP players, and disregard a DMs crafting. I can even ‘understand’ spotlight hogs. But murderhobos seem to only get enjoyment from denying others.
When all the characters are murder hobos it isn’t about being selfish, just how they approach the world. If everyone is on the same page, including the DM, that style can be a blast for everyone!
It is only an issue when people aren’t on the same page, then it can result in the things you mentioned.
That is why it is necessary to be on the same page about the expectations for the group.
Agreed, but even with managed expectations it’s a balancing act. Both from the players and the DM. Everyone is trying to get something out of their experience at the table, and it needs to have give and take. Murderhoboing just seems like the most selfish thing a player can do. It takes away from everyone else involved. You destroy plot hooks from other players, derail the story from the DM, sabotage combat for the combat players, outright deny roleplay for the RP players, and disregard a DMs crafting. I can even ‘understand’ spotlight hogs. But murderhobos seem to only get enjoyment from denying others.
When all the characters are murder hobos it isn’t about being selfish, just how they approach the world. If everyone is on the same page, including the DM, that style can be a blast for everyone!
It is only an issue when people aren’t on the same page, then it can result in the things you mentioned.