Microsoft has carefully leaked the news of its BIG SALE of Copilot licenses to Barclays Bank! 100,000 seats! Fantastic! [Bloomberg, archive] That’s a few million dollars? If that. Microsoft claims …
Maybe… like I mentioned, Nokia’s S60 application stack was a mess. The underlying phone software and platform might have been there, but the 3rd party ecosystem wasn’t. This was a huge part of the success of the iPhone, that 3rd party developers had a stable platform to develop for, and a steady financial partner (Apple) paying them.
No offense against Nokia but I really don’t think the company had the mentality to offer that.
That’s Symbian, though. Nokia managed to launch a grand total of two or three Maemo/MeeGo phones (N900, N9, maybe another one I forget) before Elop killed it in the crib. It would have been one thing if the Burning Platform meno had been about S60, but it wasn’t.
Being basically just a Qt-based DE on a pretty standard RPM-based Linux distro (much much more so than Android, even at the time) Meego had a low barrier to entry into application development and a rather stable and mature API to work with.
Then again, if you “don’t think the company had the mentality to offer that” I guess you’re right in the sense that the alleged trojan horse CEO killed the platform before it had the chance to gain any traction.
FWIW, maemo still lives… Jolla released their C2 phone which runs the maemo-descended sailfish OS about 6 months ago. I don’t know anything about it, other than its existence, and that it doesn’t have the N900 form factor 😔
Nokia managed to push Ericsson out of their dominant position because Nokia were more of a consumer products company, including consumer electronics. But because Nokia did phones as consumer electronics, they didn’t think about them in terms of a platform and had a poor position to compete with smart phones. Their best bet would probably have been to make hardware that ran Android, and at the time I was a bit surprised that they didn’t. Their hardware reputation was stellar.
Elop’s and Microsoft’s actions were still scummy, though from Nokia’s perspective they sold a failing part of their business for billions. Microsoft of course continued to run the phone sales into the ground.
when I started work at Ericsson Australia in late 2000, they’d found out that a third of Australian employees had Nokias, lol. So they bought everyone an Ericsson with a company plan! My first mobile! I hated it so much.
Maybe… like I mentioned, Nokia’s S60 application stack was a mess. The underlying phone software and platform might have been there, but the 3rd party ecosystem wasn’t. This was a huge part of the success of the iPhone, that 3rd party developers had a stable platform to develop for, and a steady financial partner (Apple) paying them.
No offense against Nokia but I really don’t think the company had the mentality to offer that.
That’s Symbian, though. Nokia managed to launch a grand total of two or three Maemo/MeeGo phones (N900, N9, maybe another one I forget) before Elop killed it in the crib. It would have been one thing if the Burning Platform meno had been about S60, but it wasn’t.
Being basically just a Qt-based DE on a pretty standard RPM-based Linux distro (much much more so than Android, even at the time) Meego had a low barrier to entry into application development and a rather stable and mature API to work with.
Then again, if you “don’t think the company had the mentality to offer that” I guess you’re right in the sense that the alleged trojan horse CEO killed the platform before it had the chance to gain any traction.
Yeah, Symbian really was quite a thing. It was insanely optimized for memory and battery, but was nightmare to code.
FWIW, maemo still lives… Jolla released their C2 phone which runs the maemo-descended sailfish OS about 6 months ago. I don’t know anything about it, other than its existence, and that it doesn’t have the N900 form factor 😔
I think this is correct.
Nokia managed to push Ericsson out of their dominant position because Nokia were more of a consumer products company, including consumer electronics. But because Nokia did phones as consumer electronics, they didn’t think about them in terms of a platform and had a poor position to compete with smart phones. Their best bet would probably have been to make hardware that ran Android, and at the time I was a bit surprised that they didn’t. Their hardware reputation was stellar.
Elop’s and Microsoft’s actions were still scummy, though from Nokia’s perspective they sold a failing part of their business for billions. Microsoft of course continued to run the phone sales into the ground.
when I started work at Ericsson Australia in late 2000, they’d found out that a third of Australian employees had Nokias, lol. So they bought everyone an Ericsson with a company plan! My first mobile! I hated it so much.