It’s a nice thought but I am a bit concerned about the ability for the government to kick the opposition MPs out of Parliament, including them not being able to vote.
It’s also unprecedented. By confirming this suspension they have just said they think this is 7 times worse than the worst thing that has ever been done by an MP in Parliament since Parliament started.
I know it sucks, but our only recourse is to promote other parties.
Vote the fuckers out! Next year.
I don’t condone violent opposition; our democracy still works. I hope we can provide better options for people, and remind them what these useless people have been doing…A year and a half of Seymour as deputy PM is going to be frustrating.
I don’t believe what happened is 7 times worse than the next worst thing…5 days would have been enough; to show that this was the worst thing (if you agree it was); it would have given similar weight to the expulsion, without turning it into a parody of itself.
I’d love to know how they came up with the recommendation. Presumably it was not based on history but they are trying to set a new precedent with longer suspensions.
I don’t either. Everyone should get to vote. I was reading about the Homosexual law reform the other day and surprised to see some members tried to make Parliament vote early to take advantage of the weather preventing others from attending. That shouldn’t be a thing.
That’s crazy. Absentee votes should be available for MPs. In the case of the suspended MPs they are not allowed to vote, but do you know if we have ways for MPs to vote if they simply couldn’t make it to parliament? With widespread internet access it should be easy to do.
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It’s a nice thought but I am a bit concerned about the ability for the government to kick the opposition MPs out of Parliament, including them not being able to vote.
It’s also unprecedented. By confirming this suspension they have just said they think this is 7 times worse than the worst thing that has ever been done by an MP in Parliament since Parliament started.
I know it sucks, but our only recourse is to promote other parties.
Vote the fuckers out! Next year.
I don’t condone violent opposition; our democracy still works. I hope we can provide better options for people, and remind them what these useless people have been doing…A year and a half of Seymour as deputy PM is going to be frustrating.
I don’t believe what happened is 7 times worse than the next worst thing…5 days would have been enough; to show that this was the worst thing (if you agree it was); it would have given similar weight to the expulsion, without turning it into a parody of itself.
I’d love to know how they came up with the recommendation. Presumably it was not based on history but they are trying to set a new precedent with longer suspensions.
I hope it doesn’t become the new normal going forward, like “under urgency” has.
I think it will. It’s ratified now, it will be considered in future cases.
I don’t really get why we let the government kick out the opposition anyway. At the very least they should still get to vote.
I don’t either. Everyone should get to vote. I was reading about the Homosexual law reform the other day and surprised to see some members tried to make Parliament vote early to take advantage of the weather preventing others from attending. That shouldn’t be a thing.
That’s crazy. Absentee votes should be available for MPs. In the case of the suspended MPs they are not allowed to vote, but do you know if we have ways for MPs to vote if they simply couldn’t make it to parliament? With widespread internet access it should be easy to do.
I think you only need one member of your party there these days and they put in a vote for the whole group (section 20.5).
But suspended people can’t be included.
Is the Haka an act performed in circuses?