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fossilesque@mander.xyzM to Science Memes@mander.xyzEnglish · 14 days ago

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    And the current goal is to ban them all

    https://www.wcl.org.uk/transitioning-to-a-pfas-free-economy.asp

    Leaving us only able to buy the proprietary alternative of an oligopoly, instead of regulating the production of this commodity.

    End result, we pay for it all and get a degradation in quality.

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      Hey friend you know the chemicals they make those things from are like WILDLY carconogenic right? And that PFAs and their cousins last forever and don’t break down in the environment?

      These chemicals are being banned because humans got too good at making super stable fuck-you-big molecules that just so happen to be wildly incompatible with anything that has DNA. These chemicals are literally everywhere with water treatment facilities having acceptable limits 2ppb or less. Yea, B, Billon. The thing with that amount though, is even THAT isn’t safe, its just regulable. Here’s an oversimplified video on the subject by Veritasium, the clickbait headline is just that. I believe this is also on nebula if you’d prefer to avoid youtube.

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        They should stop dumping it in the rivers

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          You should really watch that video. It addresses that point exactly. In short, they mostly aren’t, that isn’t the problem.

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      Dude it’s literally poison what do you want??? It also leeches into the environment extremely easily.

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      What’s the proprietary alternative?

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        More PFAS, but with a secret formula so nobody has to worry

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        some ptfe/ceramic/titanium/diamond metamatrial that tolerates way high temperatures, which you can use metal utensils on and is not as good as regular ptfe at stopping eggs from sticking to the pan.

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          But PTFE is used for more than nonstick pans.

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