Lemmyshitpost community closed until further notice - Lemmy.world
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Hello everyone, We unfortunately have to close the !lemmyshitpost community for the time being. We have been fighting the CSAM (Child Sexual Assault Material) posts all day but there is nothing we can do because they will just post from another instance since we changed our registration policy. We keep working on a solution, we have a few things in the works but that won’t help us now. Thank you for your understanding and apologies to our users, moderators and admins of other instances who had to deal with this. Edit: @Striker@lemmy.world [https://lemmy.world/u/Striker] the moderator of the affected community made a post apologizing for what happened. But this could not be stopped even with 10 moderators. And if it wasn’t his community it would have been another one. And it is clear this could happen on any instance. The only thing that could have prevented this is better moderation tools. And while a lot of the instance admins have been asking for this, it doesn’t seem to be on the developers roadmap for the time being. There are just two full-time developers on this project and they seem to have other priorities. No offense to them but it doesn’t inspire much faith for the future of Lemmy. But we will not give up. We are lucky to have a very dedicated team and we can hopefully make an announcement about what’s next very soon.
  • The Cuuuuube@beehaw.orgEnglish
    9·
    1 year ago

    “CSAM laws aren’t for the safety of real people” is one of the hottest takes I’ve ever seen in my life

    • Rodeo@lemmy.ca
      1·
      1 year ago

      Straight outta reddit with that one.

      I’m just going to copy paste my other comment:

      I thought it was pretty apparent we were talking about Lemmy, but okay.

      The statements were about the Lemmy devs can and/or should be doing for safety. They simply do not have the power to stop child abuse by developing a social media platform. So then the safety in question must be the safety of people using Lemmy, because the Lemmy devs have some direct power over that.

      I’m sure you feel very morally aloof with your righteous retort, though.

      • The Cuuuuube@beehaw.orgEnglish
        5·
        1 year ago

        Yes. Obviously we’re talking about Lemmy. We just still fundamentally disagree on the forms of harm, psychic and physical, that can be experienced through the rapid propagation of CSAM. Lemmy’s lacking mod tools have been a major topic of discussion for a while now. I don’t care to carry on this conversation because it’s clear our starting points are too far apart to meet in the middle

        • Rodeo@lemmy.ca
          1·
          1 year ago

          I think the other guy’s comment is well suited as a response to this, so again I’ll copy paste:

          The theory behind why CSAM is illegal is that if someone is willing to pay for CSAM it incentivizes production of even more CSAM content to receive more payment. That incentivized additional production means even more abuse. A perfectly reasonable take and something that I think can be demonstrated.

          But why would you accidentally seeing CSAM prompt you to give payment to create that incentivization?

          How could reason possibly prevail when the subject matter is so sensitive?