Hey all. I’d like to open an official discussion regarding the upturning of the prior Hexbear party line on an :israel-cool: emote proper with the unambiguous Zionist flag.
I want to preface this by saying this is not in a ‘ceding the issue’ way. Over the past year I’ve been trying to engage in self-crit w/rt the chauvinism I’ve internalized growing up in a Liberal Zionist household, and my personal viewpoint on it did a 180 some months back, so I want to reopen this discussion proper in my personal capacities as Self-Appointed Emote Czar.
The reason it’s taken long enough beyond that is prior to July, I was essentially half-engaged with the site in order to finish out my degree. After that, it’s been mostly inertia of confirming with the admins and other /c/Judaism mods, as well as having to be rigorous about my job search personally giving me little free time to coordinate this.
I do not want to center myself in this conversation more than I inadvertently already have, so I will leave my own opinion on the issue as a comment rather than explaining further here.
The consensus we’ve roughly come to is to open up the discussion in an official manner for a day or so. After that, I’ll weigh the discussion in an entirely vibes-based manner (sorry Dean Norris enjoyers) and we’ll alter Hexbear party line on it accordingly.
If the reason for hesitation is that they went about bringing the issue of mod abuse in the wrong way, I disagree with your hesitation. Half the reason I’m even in this thread as much as I am is because Zposter (or some other banned Arab user) messaged me from an alt this morning pretending they weren’t Z. That was disingenuous, but it also was a fairly effective way to get my attention, and when I uncovered the old incident with Nakoichi I figured their behavior made sense.
I mean, look at it this way: if you had a mod tell you to die, then other mods covered it up or gaslit you into thinking it didn’t happen, what tools do you have available to make this issue known? You’d probably do some irrational things.
Regardless, I still am skeptical that they should be unbanned. They may have done or said a lot of heinous things. That ought to be cleared up first IMO.
It just reads as manipulative to me, and it does seem to be effective.
Is that actual the case? How is it a cover up if you can just view the mod log publicly?
Take a look
Also note that the comment where Nakoichi tells Z to touch grass 6 feet under got “chill” as its removal reason.