• This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    Hopefully there are Linux phones available in near future.

    If not, I’ll probably buy an iPhone. When both phone OS are locked down, might as well get the one that’s supported for years.

  • the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    An accurate title would read something like: Google wants to make side loading apps more difficult by adding extra steps under the guise of security in order to maintain market dominance and continue spying on the user.

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    15 hours ago

    Sure, to make it safer in the same way Microsoft made you safer by making it harder to install Linux with UEFI.

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      Isn’t it actually easier with UEFI since you can have multiple bootloaders and updating windows doesn’t overwrite any other bootloaders? I think the issue arises from secureboot

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      F-Droid store/repo is safer than Google Play Store. Google’s own store has many shady apps, including spyware and occasionnal malware.

      I don’t get the argument that Play Store is safer than others.

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    17 hours ago

    Ridiculous, mother of bullshit! Switching to Linux appears to be the only option left for a personal computing device.

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      8 hours ago

      In this time and age, do you still doubt that Linux might be outlawed for consumers? To prevent criminal activity, of course /s.

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        They already consider you a criminal if you use grapheneOS on a pixel. It’s not a joke.

    • Possibly linux@lemmy.zip
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      13 hours ago

      Honestly we need a community OS like Android/Chome OS

      I like Linux but it would be really cool to have a OS that was less modular and more purpose built. I feel like there is enough people interested that we could raise some money to hire some developers. On think Chome OS and Android get right is the hassle free unified experience.

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        12 hours ago

        There’s GrapheneOS that I think would try to address this problem — secure, proper architecture, compatible with some major app stack (e.g. Android apps). It’s AOSP-based, but they’re already thinking ahead up to a point where they would be forced to fork it and even work with OEMs to create their own phone hardware for it. There are a couple of threads on their Mastodon.

        I don’t know how much they would be able to achieve, but I would pay for such system.

      • 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        8 hours ago

        You can’t convince me this wasn’t Google’s plan from the very beginning.

        • Open source it, Gain market share,
        • Push ads/capitalize on data harvesting
        • Corner OEMs to include their malware
        • Gradually make it harder for ROM developers to gain access
        • Lock it down
        • Profit

        They stole tons of features from custom ROMs but never implemented the ability to turn off internet for specific apps so they could push ads and track users.They made turning location “on” a requirement to scan wifi, calling it a security feature. They re-enable “background data” on all apps with an Android update. These are just off the top of my head.

        Chromium works towards same goal as well. They never wanted to defeat apple, monopoly, they wanted to become part of the duopoly.

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    17 hours ago

    In the meantime, we’re already verifying signatures for sideloaded apps. Can’t say the same about play store apps.

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    13 hours ago

    Great, Apple style app notarization is just about the last thing I want on my damn phone.

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    Glad i run only LineageOS with no gapps.

    I wonder if this will do the same thing that happened to Windows when Windows 11 wouldn’t support older devices and people switched on mass to Linux.

    Either way, you’re gonna have a bifurcated Android. One Android for the plebs where Google controls everything, and one Android for those who know where Google controls nothing.

    Sounds like this is going to stop things like me telling my friend to install new pipe from afteroid because they can skip YouTube ads.

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    16 hours ago

    Oh I see someone already made a post. I can’t see how this is enforceable except for highly modifying the OS. It would have to be enforced at the device level correct,?

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      It’ll be part of Google Play “Protect”, part of “gapps” not AOSP. Manufacturers have to ship all of gapps or none. Its not clear if this will block installs/updates, add a nag screen occasionally or fully block running these apps/disable them.

      This is the equivalent of Apples Notarization which they just used to block apps after the EU told them to allow users to install apps.

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        So disable play protect and this goes away

        Edit: I do want to add that I HOPE this is what is needed to bypass this… If they block my modded and github APKs I’m going to go fucking nuclear