All these single-handle showers are such an example of designer UX ruling over user input. What ever happened to having either 2 or four labeled handles?
Ah okay, I guess I do have at least three of these directly. Pressure you just have to cheese it with the Hot/Cold taps but being able to regulate and then turn it on or off would indeed be excellent!
Firstly, not a Mr and I think that’s fairly clear from my username, so please don’t call me that.
Secondly, I don’t have two bathrooms, just one that doesn’t suck:
Seeing this bathroom layout in house listings so often mystifies me. Like, I see the benefit of having both a shower and a tub, but putting them in the same room means that, in many circumstances, they can’t be used at the same time…unless you’re very comfortable with your friends and family, I guess.
I think it’s more about having access to both than them being able to be used at the same time. Even in places with two bathrooms here, usually one will have just a shower and the other will have both.
I mean, you still have access to both if they’re combined…? The only time it’d become an issue is what they already commented: when they’re used at the same time.
Also combined can be a pretty nice thing, as you can bath, and then rinse off properly without going anywhere else or dripping soapy water all over.
When I lived in Japan, my apartment had a thermostat for the in-line water heater with controls by the bathroom and kitchen. I knew what temp I liked to shower and just used hot water.
What you want to control is water temperature and (separately) water flow rate.
Two taps let you control those but only by guessing the right combination of settings with trial and error. On your first try you’ll get one right (the flow rate, say) and mess up the other one (the temperature, say). Try again and you’re a little closer, but not perfect.
One-handled taps align their control vectors with the search space’s basis vectors. You want more flow? Turn this way, exactly to the right setting. You want higher temperature? Turn this other way, orthogonal to the first, without altering what you had set there. There’s no comparison.
That’s all well and good until a shitty design has 3/4ths of one of those dimensions functionally equivalent, so you end up struggling to find the correct combination anyways because 90% of the useful range is spread over 5 degrees of motion.
Also, water pressure is a non-issue for how most people shower. No one is choosing 72.5% water pressure, so it’s a bit pointless to herald the separated control as much of a functional win.
So with the plethora of shitty designs out there, and the fact that one of those variables doesn’t really need to be fine tuned… I functionally agree with the other person: Combined sucks in practice, regardless of how neat the concept is supposed to be.
All these single-handle showers are such an example of designer UX ruling over user input. What ever happened to having either 2 or four labeled handles?
Four?!?
Don’t worry, you’ll figure it out.
:/
Hot, Cold, Pressure, Nozzle output spray type
Ah okay, I guess I do have at least three of these directly. Pressure you just have to cheese it with the Hot/Cold taps but being able to regulate and then turn it on or off would indeed be excellent!
Yes, four.
Ew, shower’s over tubs are awful, dangerous, not disability-friendly disasters.
Edit: Also you can achieve the same with three taps when one is the spigot selector.
Look at you mr can afford multiple bathrooms
Us poor normal folk get one bathroom and God damn it I like options.
Firstly, not a Mr and I think that’s fairly clear from my username, so please don’t call me that.
Secondly, I don’t have two bathrooms, just one that doesn’t suck:
Seeing this bathroom layout in house listings so often mystifies me. Like, I see the benefit of having both a shower and a tub, but putting them in the same room means that, in many circumstances, they can’t be used at the same time…unless you’re very comfortable with your friends and family, I guess.
I think it’s more about having access to both than them being able to be used at the same time. Even in places with two bathrooms here, usually one will have just a shower and the other will have both.
I mean, you still have access to both if they’re combined…? The only time it’d become an issue is what they already commented: when they’re used at the same time.
Also combined can be a pretty nice thing, as you can bath, and then rinse off properly without going anywhere else or dripping soapy water all over.
When I lived in Japan, my apartment had a thermostat for the in-line water heater with controls by the bathroom and kitchen. I knew what temp I liked to shower and just used hot water.
On the contrary, they’re brilliant design!
What you want to control is water temperature and (separately) water flow rate. Two taps let you control those but only by guessing the right combination of settings with trial and error. On your first try you’ll get one right (the flow rate, say) and mess up the other one (the temperature, say). Try again and you’re a little closer, but not perfect.
One-handled taps align their control vectors with the search space’s basis vectors. You want more flow? Turn this way, exactly to the right setting. You want higher temperature? Turn this other way, orthogonal to the first, without altering what you had set there. There’s no comparison.
That’s all well and good until a shitty design has 3/4ths of one of those dimensions functionally equivalent, so you end up struggling to find the correct combination anyways because 90% of the useful range is spread over 5 degrees of motion.
Also, water pressure is a non-issue for how most people shower. No one is choosing 72.5% water pressure, so it’s a bit pointless to herald the separated control as much of a functional win.
So with the plethora of shitty designs out there, and the fact that one of those variables doesn’t really need to be fine tuned… I functionally agree with the other person: Combined sucks in practice, regardless of how neat the concept is supposed to be.